Flak88 Posted October 23, 2006 Posted October 23, 2006 Gents,Just got this photo for my book and am hoping we can ID him. Thanks!Marc
Dave Danner Posted October 25, 2006 Posted October 25, 2006 As noted on WAF, the number of Wilhelm-Ernst Kriegskreuz recipients in the air arms was small, 23 found in O'Connor's research. Of these, the number who were observers would narrow it further.I think, but I'm not sure, that the second ribbon is one color, and thus possibly a House Order of Vigilance or the White Falcon with Swords, Saxe-Weimar's principal order. The number of aviation recipients of both the White Falcon and the Wilhelm-Ernst Kriegskreuz is about five or so, according to a quick cross-check of the appendices to O'Connor's book. Of these, at least one had a Saxe-Ernestine House Order as well. That ribbon bar doesn't show any other Imperial awards, since #3 appears to be the Ehrenkreuz f?r Frontk?mpfer.So without access to any Luftwaffe lists, I'd say you could narrow it down to one hand's worth of names, even if you'd had an accident in shop class.
Flak88 Posted October 25, 2006 Author Posted October 25, 2006 Thanks Dave - good to hit as many forums as possible - never know who has something...Marc
Flak88 Posted October 25, 2006 Author Posted October 25, 2006 More info from Wildcard:Following is Neal?s list of aviation service WEK recipients; your man should be in there somewhere. The ones marked with an astrisk (*) I have positively identified as observers. Those unmarked may or may not be. Good luck and best wishes. Hans Freiherr von und zu Fraunberg*Max LochteWolf ThiemeKurt or Curt von Haeseler*Werner St?hrOtto Fl?lErnst UmlauffFriedrich SchaeferBruno Schubert*Oswald von dem HagenEdmund NathanaelAlfred EdlerFriedrich Freiherr von Th?naWalter JacobiOtto FischerFreidrich BraunsViktor NeumannKurt Ernst Emil HungerHans WeberKurt von BoyneburgkErich F?lleMax RossbachWalter SchwarzWalter Luge
Guest Rick Research Posted October 26, 2006 Posted October 26, 2006 Am enslogged in Sachsen Weimar, which won't be done until year's end. Luftwaffe officers below General are a Black Hole of missing data.Max Lochte*Wolf Thieme (too senior for only a Luftwaffe 4)Kurt von Haeseler*Ernst Umlauff *Bruno Schubert* (Not on Neal's list OR in the WEKK roll)Oswald von dem Hagen (too senior for only a Luftwaffe 4)Edmund Nathanael (killed in action 1917)Alfred Edler (NAVY so not him)Otto Tischer (typo on Neal's list) Kurt Ernst Emil Hunger (a "Palestine" flyer and no Turkish awards so not him)Walter Luge (too senior and was an airship officer so not him)None of the above possibles listed was active duty Luftwaffe 1945, but bear in mind that until ALL the White Falcon and Ernestine rolls are done to compare with the WEKK, any process of elimination still does not include UNidentified aviators who received these awards while ground soldiers.
Soderbaum Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Hi allI wonder if any new information have pupped up regarding identification of this Luftwaffe officer have appeared the last 9 Years ??I am especially interested in Hptm Wolf Thieme from IR 62 for whom I am lacking basic info like date and place of birth.Gunnar
Mattyboy Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 Hi all, There was another aviation recipient of this award - Kurt Jaenisch https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=128490 Best Regards, Matt.
webr55 Posted September 3, 2020 Posted September 3, 2020 This might be Walter Jacobi. He is in the WEK list above, and was Flak Oberst in WW2. From 3.6.41 - 5.45 Kdr FlakScheinwReg 161
Mattyboy Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 Hi webr55, I think you are right. Here is another photo of Jacobi - I think it's him 1
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