Imperial Russia NAPOLEONIC ST.GEORGE CROSS ?

[Moore of Corunna]

Hello Gentlemen,

I?d like to know your opinions about this medal.

[Moore of Corunna]

Reverse,

[Moore of Corunna]

And one more. Thank you everybody.

[Igor Ostapenko]

Fake

[Chuck In Oregon]

Fake

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Perhaps you would explain the reasons for your opinion, perhaps even providing some support and particulars, so that all of us could learn?

Thank you.

Chuck

[Ed_Haynes]

Yes, please. Among gentlemen, just snarling "fake" isn't good enough.

[Igor Ostapenko]

Gentelmens !

Sorry !

You can see

[Igor Ostapenko]

And

[Chris Boonzaier]

A question.... does comparing a piece to another constitute a proof?

If I post my Zink German pilots badge, XYZ his Buntmetal one and YWV his aluminium one....

Which one is fake?

[Ed_Haynes]

Which one is fake?

Easy: The one not in your collection.

[Chuck In Oregon]

Easy: The one not in your collection.

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Oh, that is too funny! Good one.

[Kev in Deva]

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Oh, that is too funny! Good one.

Hallo Gents

maybe what Igor is not trying to say in so many words of his limited english is look at the quality of my piece, I am showing you a perfect example, any that do not come up to this standard are F A K E

Kevin in Deva.

[Riley1965]

Easy: The one not in your collection.

A lesson I learned the hard way recently

Doc

[Moore of Corunna]

Thank you everybody, specially Igor.

This item was in eBay Germany and... I was not the winner...fortunately.

I must tell you that your answers have arrived too late cause I sent one bid, but not too high. I wasn?t sure about this medal. Certainly the photographs shows a faded surface.

Anyway, thank you gentlemen

[NavyFCO]

I don't have a dog in this fight as I don't own one of these (nor have any intention to do so) but I would still have my doubts about this medal for several reasons (and this was well before Igor posted up his original for comparison.) Compare this one to Igor's. Note that Igor's is silver with a nice patina. The one in the auction doesn't even appear to be silver, let alone with a patina. It looks more like a dark grey metal of some sort. Second, the one in the auction has the numbers cast into the piece from when the faker made a cast of the original medal. Once again, compare that to Igor's, and you'll see that the numbers aren't cast into the arms, but are instead cleanly stamped. Finally, look at the detail on the George and on the reverse. It's not near what it should be, even with many years of wear. There are a few other things, but those were the biggest keys to me.

Dave

Edited November 29, 2006 by NavyFCO

[Moore of Corunna]

I agree with you Dave. The differences are quite important in all the aspects.

[Ramblinfarms]

As with all Russian Badges and Awards: Quality, Quality and more Quality.

[Daniel Murphy]

Igor,

As a closet Imperial Russian fan, I have to say that is one magnificent piece!

Dan

[Moore of Corunna]

Igor,

As a closet Imperial Russian fan, I have to say that is one magnificent piece!

Dan

Hello Dan,

Please,Can you explain your opinion? I?m beginning to become crazy...

Happy Christmas.

[Daniel Murphy]

MOC,

Sorry, perhaps my reply was not as specific as it could have been. I was speaking of the original one that Igor posted. I have a couple Imperial Russian pieces, but nothing to really speak of, I would love to get a George Cross someday. I am by no means an expert on this. Merry Christmas to you as well.

Dan