Emblems of the LW in Spain

[François SAEZ]

Do you have pics showing them to share with everybody?

Thanks

[François SAEZ]

Here is a picture of a German pilot from 1./K. 88 with 2 original pins of the same unit (they didn't come together).

The flash is reflecting on the pins (sorry for that) - they look similar but are not, even if both came from the same guy

[Scott]

Fantastic! Any chance of a photo of the reverse?

Scott

[François SAEZ]

Scott,

Back is post card format with some writtings, for obvious reasons I won't post a pic of it - several fakes of it are already circulating (Mike Heuer (LW collector) had one which he gave me - Having both an original and a copy, I can tell you it is close but no cigar.

* May I ask you why you ask, do you have one pic like this one?

[Jacques]

Here is an aircaft^picture with an old lady painted on the rear

[Panzerpionier]

Here is an aircaft^picture with an old lady painted on the rear

The Champagne bottle on the black fuselage disk was the emblem of the VB/88, or at least one of them.

[Scott]

Hello Francois - I was referring to a reverse photo of the shooting star badges

Kind regards,

Scott

[François SAEZ]

Hello Francois - I was referring to a reverse photo of the shooting star badges

Kind regards,

Scott

Sorry for the confusion, will do

[Paul R]

Was this pin worn only while attached to the unit, or did the service member maintain the right to wear it after transfer?

Regards

Paul

[François SAEZ]

Here is a picture of a German pilot from 1./K. 88 with 2 original pins of the same unit (they didn't come together).

The flash is reflecting on the pins (sorry for that) - they look similar but are not, even if both came from the same guy

same emblem painted on a plane

[François SAEZ]

Was this pin worn only while attached to the unit, or did the service member maintain the right to wear it after transfer?

Regards

Paul

Paul, I am not sure of regulations for the pins but if you look at the picture the guy is wearing a SC which means he already returned from Spain - I may be wrong here but believe that those badges were only commemorative (like other pins) and were not worn after a new unit affectation - but I may be wrong.

This particular pin was also worn by Spanish crew.

[Scott]

Great photos!

Scott

[François SAEZ]

Hello Francois - I was referring to a reverse photo of the shooting star badges

Kind regards,

Scott

Here we go Scott

[Scott]

Thank you Francois! Very nice.

Kind regards.

Scott

Edited December 16, 2006 by Scott

[François SAEZ]

Here is a Mickey Mouse as used by 3.J/88.

Disney cartoons have been used in abondance as unit or personal emblems.

[Sal Williams]

I would post some but Francois has all of them in the world

[François SAEZ]

This one is a personal emblem and is attached to a "sad" story.

"It belongs to 1./K88, aircraft 25-15 (He 111, know as "Pedro 15"), flown by Lt Fuhrhop. His (and his crew) mascot was a black Scotch terrier, who was not as so lucky as the crew, as he was killed over Sagunto on 13 June 1938."

[François SAEZ]

Here is an aircaft^picture with an old lady painted on the rear

Emblem of "Pedro 4" - as far as I know, no info known on this emblem

[François SAEZ]

Here is a Mickey Mouse as used by 3.J/88.

Disney cartoons have been used in abondance as unit or personal emblems.

Painted on a unknow fighter plane with an unknown (to me) name or motto

[François SAEZ]

Same emblem

Plane one xwith 12 victories belongs to W. Molders

The second one, I am not sure, at this time Lippert was at the 3/. , he was credited 5 victories while the picture show 6, but he seems to be the only pilot matching for this period of time.

Any info is welcome

[francisco v.]

Hello Fran?ois, the sad story happened later.

The two boxer dogs of Major Fuhrhop, called "Chica" and "Ciro" also died but WWII although

this time himself perished too.

On 29th February 1944, in anticipation of a visit from RAF Bomber Command that night,

it was decided to move the Ju188's of 1/KG6 which he commanded from their Chievres base, to Dreux airfield,

operating from there against England that night. At 13.00hrs two Ju188's took off

destination Dreux carrying several groundcrew technicians and his two Boxer dogs.

Cloud base was low and this combined with rain led the crews to assume that there would be no

RAF activity en route.

An hour or so later the Adjutant of 1/KG 6 became concerned at the absence of a

landing report from Dreux, and was unable to make contact with Dreux Control.

Later that afternoon the Adjutant was informed that both 188's had been shot down near

the town of Sebancourt.

Next morning the remains of the two Ju188's were found to be scattered over a wide area .

The bodies of the 13 crew members had been moved to a nearby monastery and laid out

on parachutes.

The watches of all 13 deceased had stopped at 13.15hrs, just 15 minutes after take off.

The assumption that weather conditions precluded RAF fighter activity proved to he a

costly mistake, stooging along at 1,000ft. relaxed; they panicked when cannon fire from 609's

Typhoons hit them.

Aircraft and crew details;

Ju188 coded 3E +AB of Stab 1/KG 6 crashed at Sebancourt 18kms NE of St. Quentin.

Major Helmut Fuhrhop, pilot, Oberfeldwebel Albert Schubert, observer,

Oberfeldwebel Alfons Eichschmidt, radio operator, Stabsfeldwebel Walter Rehfeldt,

flight engineer, Oberfeldwebel Wilhelm Schachtschnabel, air gunner

and Feldwebel Arnold Buettner, mechanic.

After the war, Major Fuhrhop who was awarded the RK on 22-Nov-1943 were reburied at the german cementery of Lommel in Belgium,

Block 59 grave 448

Regards

Francisco

This one is a personal emblem and is attached to a "sad" story.

"It belongs to 1./K88, aircraft 25-15 (He 111, know as "Pedro 15"), flown by Lt Fuhrhop. His (and his crew) mascot was a black Scotch terrier, who was not as so lucky as the crew, as he was killed over Sagunto on 13 June 1938."

[François SAEZ]

Among many variations of Mickey Mouse is this one

[François SAEZ]

Time is passing, then the pilot is taking "promotion" so does the emblem (my theory and I can be wrong)

[François SAEZ]

A DO 17 from A/88 (Devil) with a personal emblem unidentifyed by me

[François SAEZ]

Seems the same "kind" of emblem