François SAEZ Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Do you have pics showing them to share with everybody?Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 Here is a picture of a German pilot from 1./K. 88 with 2 original pins of the same unit (they didn't come together).The flash is reflecting on the pins (sorry for that) - they look similar but are not, even if both came from the same guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Fantastic! Any chance of a photo of the reverse?Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 Scott,Back is post card format with some writtings, for obvious reasons I won't post a pic of it - several fakes of it are already circulating (Mike Heuer (LW collector) had one which he gave me - Having both an original and a copy, I can tell you it is close but no cigar.* May I ask you why you ask, do you have one pic like this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Here is an aircaft^picture with an old lady painted on the rear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerpionier Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Here is an aircaft^picture with an old lady painted on the rearThe Champagne bottle on the black fuselage disk was the emblem of the VB/88, or at least one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Hello Francois - I was referring to a reverse photo of the shooting star badges Kind regards,Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 Hello Francois - I was referring to a reverse photo of the shooting star badges Kind regards,ScottSorry for the confusion, will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Was this pin worn only while attached to the unit, or did the service member maintain the right to wear it after transfer?RegardsPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 Here is a picture of a German pilot from 1./K. 88 with 2 original pins of the same unit (they didn't come together).The flash is reflecting on the pins (sorry for that) - they look similar but are not, even if both came from the same guysame emblem painted on a plane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 Was this pin worn only while attached to the unit, or did the service member maintain the right to wear it after transfer?RegardsPaulPaul, I am not sure of regulations for the pins but if you look at the picture the guy is wearing a SC which means he already returned from Spain - I may be wrong here but believe that those badges were only commemorative (like other pins) and were not worn after a new unit affectation - but I may be wrong.This particular pin was also worn by Spanish crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Great photos!Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 Hello Francois - I was referring to a reverse photo of the shooting star badges Kind regards,ScottHere we go Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 (edited) Thank you Francois! Very nice.Kind regards.Scott Edited December 16, 2006 by Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Here is a Mickey Mouse as used by 3.J/88.Disney cartoons have been used in abondance as unit or personal emblems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I would post some but Francois has all of them in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 This one is a personal emblem and is attached to a "sad" story."It belongs to 1./K88, aircraft 25-15 (He 111, know as "Pedro 15"), flown by Lt Fuhrhop. His (and his crew) mascot was a black Scotch terrier, who was not as so lucky as the crew, as he was killed over Sagunto on 13 June 1938." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Here is an aircaft^picture with an old lady painted on the rearEmblem of "Pedro 4" - as far as I know, no info known on this emblem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Here is a Mickey Mouse as used by 3.J/88.Disney cartoons have been used in abondance as unit or personal emblems.Painted on a unknow fighter plane with an unknown (to me) name or motto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Same emblemPlane one xwith 12 victories belongs to W. Molders The second one, I am not sure, at this time Lippert was at the 3/. , he was credited 5 victories while the picture show 6, but he seems to be the only pilot matching for this period of time.Any info is welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francisco v. Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Hello Fran?ois, the sad story happened later.The two boxer dogs of Major Fuhrhop, called "Chica" and "Ciro" also died but WWII althoughthis time himself perished too.On 29th February 1944, in anticipation of a visit from RAF Bomber Command that night, it was decided to move the Ju188's of 1/KG6 which he commanded from their Chievres base, to Dreux airfield, operating from there against England that night. At 13.00hrs two Ju188's took off destination Dreux carrying several groundcrew technicians and his two Boxer dogs. Cloud base was low and this combined with rain led the crews to assume that there would be no RAF activity en route. An hour or so later the Adjutant of 1/KG 6 became concerned at the absence of a landing report from Dreux, and was unable to make contact with Dreux Control. Later that afternoon the Adjutant was informed that both 188's had been shot down near the town of Sebancourt. Next morning the remains of the two Ju188's were found to be scattered over a wide area . The bodies of the 13 crew members had been moved to a nearby monastery and laid out on parachutes.The watches of all 13 deceased had stopped at 13.15hrs, just 15 minutes after take off. The assumption that weather conditions precluded RAF fighter activity proved to he a costly mistake, stooging along at 1,000ft. relaxed; they panicked when cannon fire from 609's Typhoons hit them.Aircraft and crew details; Ju188 coded 3E +AB of Stab 1/KG 6 crashed at Sebancourt 18kms NE of St. Quentin. Major Helmut Fuhrhop, pilot, Oberfeldwebel Albert Schubert, observer, Oberfeldwebel Alfons Eichschmidt, radio operator, Stabsfeldwebel Walter Rehfeldt, flight engineer, Oberfeldwebel Wilhelm Schachtschnabel, air gunner and Feldwebel Arnold Buettner, mechanic.After the war, Major Fuhrhop who was awarded the RK on 22-Nov-1943 were reburied at the german cementery of Lommel in Belgium,Block 59 grave 448RegardsFranciscoThis one is a personal emblem and is attached to a "sad" story."It belongs to 1./K88, aircraft 25-15 (He 111, know as "Pedro 15"), flown by Lt Fuhrhop. His (and his crew) mascot was a black Scotch terrier, who was not as so lucky as the crew, as he was killed over Sagunto on 13 June 1938." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 Among many variations of Mickey Mouse is this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 Time is passing, then the pilot is taking "promotion" so does the emblem (my theory and I can be wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 A DO 17 from A/88 (Devil) with a personal emblem unidentifyed by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 Seems the same "kind" of emblem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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