BalkanCollector Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Very nice! This topic is too large so I've missed it
paja Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 It's easy to miss it in a topic with over 250 replies But still, like I said earlier, the order that you have showed us has different needle. Rudež mentions in his book that both Soviet and Yugoslav type were later converted although I don't remember seeing Yugo type with needle.
gerd vantyghem Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Hi, what is your opinion on this one? Do fakes exist of this badge?
BalkanCollector Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 Hello! The fakes exist, although I'm not sure what to think about your piece. Paja should reply very soon and he will be able to tell you more about it.
paja Posted August 31, 2017 Posted August 31, 2017 As BalkanCollector already wrote fakes do exist, some of them are not very well made and can be spotted right away. When it comes to orders such as the one you presented above opinions are divided. There are far too many 2nd and 3rd class Partisan Stars on the market, just think about the number of awarded pieces. Basically there are two theories, some believe there's something wrong and that these pieces are probably fakes, others presume someone found a huge stash in some storage and started selling them. The biggest argument for the second theory is that red Soviet enamel, I wouldn't know myself but apparently it's very hard to copy it. Based on the photo I guess that 14056 is coming from Bulgaria... Most of these orders are being sold by the same sellers. This subject was also discussed in HERE.
gerd vantyghem Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 Hi friends, I've recenty bought this empty Partizan Star box on Ebay which was in perfect condition... When I got it, it was just packed in a foamed envelope (not in a box), and was wrapped in some paper. Dispite all that, the box was severly damaged :-(( I contacted the seller and he immediately refunded all my money. As I think these boxes are quite rare, I proposed to check what the remaining collectible value is, and propose him this price. Up to the seller to agree or not. Else I will send it back. As you can see, ALL the seams on the box has ripped and split...It must have been crushed in the mail under the weight of all the other packages and letters... It's such a shame as I'm sure this is rare: a 2nd class silver IKOM star is rare... Not to mention it's box in perfect condition... :(( What would be the remaining value of the sale price? 25%?? Kind regards, Gerd V
paja Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 What a pity! As you already wrote 2nd class boxes are rare so it hard to say what would be realistic price now. I presume it has "ORDEN PARTIZANSKE ZVEZDE SA SREBRNIM VENCEM" inscription on the lid, that means it was made after March 1961. The box is for the needle variant and I don't remember seeing IKOM made 2nd classes with needle, of course that doesn't mean they don't exist.
BalkanCollector Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 I've finally bought my first 3rd class star of this order (IKOM, Yugoslav made type). The hallmarks look good under the magnifier. It looks even more beautiful in my hands.
gerd vantyghem Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, BalkanCollector said: I've finally bought my first 3rd class star of this order (IKOM, Yugoslav made type). The hallmarks look good under the magnifier. It looks even more beautiful in my hands. Very nice, Mario! Congrats Kind regards, Gerd V Yes sir, it is a box for an Star with pin. Does anyone know how much an honest price would be? I can propose the seller this price and buy it in that condition, alas :-( PM's with suggestions are welcome. Kind regards, Gerd V
BalkanCollector Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 Thank you Gerd! Unfortunately I don't know enough about those boxes so I can't know for sure what would a fair price be. :/
paja Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 17 hours ago, BalkanCollector said: I've finally bought my first 3rd class star of this order (IKOM, Yugoslav made type). The hallmarks look good under the magnifier. It looks even more beautiful in my hands. Congrats, a nice looking pieces and a great addition to your collection
BalkanCollector Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 Thank you Paja! It's been a while since I started a search for this piece. The patience had finally paid off.
gerd vantyghem Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 Hi, here an overview of my stars Kind regards, Gerd
paja Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 What an amazing group, all three classes plus one complete third class set and another one with the box, you don't see that every day! Congrats!
BalkanCollector Posted October 8, 2017 Posted October 8, 2017 Beautiful collection Gerd! I see your Titovka caps had arrived.
Eric Gaumann Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 After a long layoff from collecting anything I've finally restarted my engine. Here's my first PS3. I went back and forth whether to get Ikom or Mondvor but the price was so good I decided Ikom. You guys see anything wrong?
Daffy Duck Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 it's legit one. I have similar one in collection too.
Eric Gaumann Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 The one thing that stood out, to me, when I had this in hand are the tool marks(?) that I've pointed out in the image below. They're most obvious in the two spots with the '>' but are discernible in all 5 spots. I'm guessing these are parts of the manufacturing process.
paja Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) First of all I'd like to point out that I'm not claiming some of the orders I'll be writing about are 100% fake, there are a few issues that concern me and I'd just like to hear other people's opinions. We talked a lot about MD Partisan Stars before, but what about IKOM made orders? Were these being awarded at all? I ask because I don't remember seeing an awarded IKOM Partisan Stars, do you? Does anyone have, for example, an inherited awarded piece or a piece with a matching number on the awarding certificate? I did some rethinking after talking about the "2nd class flood" (I'll come back to that subject later) with other collectors and now I'm not sure if all of these 3rd classes are authentic. I started collecting images of IKOM orders just recently so unfortunately I don't have a very large photo archive. Let's start with these two, look at the rifles, do they seem OK to you? Edited October 25, 2017 by paja
paja Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 "Double vision" back side. OK photos are a bit blurry but it's not just that, take a look at the number and the Roman numeral.
paja Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 A couple more questionable back sides (and rifles), at least in my opinion.
paja Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 Screw nuts. Considering that these were most probably never awarded they can't be worn out...
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