Troy Tempest Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Correct. The Kyffhäuserbund-Ehrenzeichen was an award for outstanding membership. There are two classes 2nd class in silver and 1st class in gold. We can find six different models. M1 is with text "Der Kyffhäuserbund seinem Kameraden", M1a with clasp, M1b with small metal band. After renaming the Kyffhäuserbund to NS-Reichskriegerbund the awards become the text "Der NS-Reichskriegerbund seinem Kameraden". This M2 is only with small metal band to fix it. And, of course, all in silber and gold and M1 and M2 with award documents. This awards are worn on the right side armband,half under Reichskriegerbund-Emblem. Hi Debbi/Ulsterman! Thanks for this, I always thought my Ehrenzeichen WAS a cap badge! Now all I need is an armband to pin mine on and I'm set! Just to clarify things for my own records, do I have a 2nd class M1, or M1a? It is the pinback, so what is the difference between the M1 and M1a please?
Troy Tempest Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Also, is there any reason on the urkunde, it says Kyffhäuser Ehrenzeichen insteead of Kyffhäuserbund Ehrenzeichen?
Ulsterman Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Ges. Gesch. mean "applied for patent" Ummmm...gotta go look back to see difference between M1 and M1a versions and bund means "association" or "group" and has "fraternal" connotations- like "brotherhood' etc. but not as informal. So, no difference. Kyffsr. is the mountain where the original war memorial was put up. These vets groups ALL have political overtones- as they were used by the Conservatives as socio-political bulwarks against the rapidly expanding (and radical) SPD/KPD. Some Kyfssrbnd. groups did not permit Jewish members and others prohibited SPD membership.
Pagan Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Like you Troy I just need the armband and a gold badge to make my little collection as complete as I will be able to do I picked this up the other week to match the 40 year badge that goes with it. I personally like the history of the signature as well. The authorizing signature is, "Reichskriegerführer", (National Soldier's League Leader), and "General der Infanterie, SS-Obergruppenführer", Wilhelm Reinhard Interesting career had he "a highly decorated WWI veteran having been awarded the Iron Cross in both 1ST and 2ND classes and a Pour le Mérite in August 1917 followed by the Oak-leaves to the Pour le Mérite in October 1918 among numerous other awards. During the Third Reich era Reinhard was bestowed an NSDAP Golden party badge on March 22ND 1938, the War Merit Cross in both 1ST and 2ND classes, an SS-Totenkopf, (Death's Head), Ring on October 8TH 1937 and an Ehrendegen der RFSS, (Honor Sword of the SS Supreme Commander), on March 18TH 1939. Reinhard held the position of Reichskriegerführer from March 18TH 1938 until March 3RD 1943 when the position was abolished." Mel the Kiwi
Scowen Posted March 23, 2011 Author Posted March 23, 2011 Hi Don! I have recently purchased the small version on the LHS for myself, although it does not have the same pin, just a straight pin with no knurling(?) marks on it, and it has no makers mark on the top reverse, but does have GES. GESCH on the bottom. How exactly would I describe this pin for my records please? And what does Ges. Gesch indicate? Thanks mate! Hi Troy, Could you post an image of the pin please? Cheers Don
Troy Tempest Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Hi Don It's the same as yours in post #1, the small one on the left.
--dj--Joe Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Thought to add this to this fine thread. --dj--Joe
Signalcorps45 Posted October 14, 2012 Posted October 14, 2012 Hello to everyone, Something else to add to this thread (an armband) and --dj--Joe's submission. Dean
Ulsterman Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 Really nice! These badges have real political/historical significance -as they were issued by the Nazis as an attempt to "coordinate" and de-fang/make impotent the old veterans' associations. At one point almost one in three adult German males belonged to one club or another and there was an enormous overlap with shooting clubs and musical societies as well. The older veterans' associations were a solid part of German society and culture and had enormous political importance. A lot of these older guys got dragged back into combat in 1945 as Volksturm members. The photos are from Rick Research's collection.
LarryT Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) Here is a photo from my collection. Larry Edited December 26, 2012 by LarryT
LarryT Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) Another. Edited December 26, 2012 by LarryT
Scowen Posted December 26, 2012 Author Posted December 26, 2012 A couple of nice pictures there Larry, I especially like the first one as it shows the member badge on the tie very nicely. Thanks for posting. Cheers Don
--dj--Joe Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 Larry T., thanks for the period images. Appreciate seeing them. Here is a 50 I can share. --dj--Joe
Jock Auld Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Guys,I posted this in the wrong place!Having read the whole thread now this is the one before NS changed it.Jock:) Edited October 28, 2013 by Jock Auld
Troy Tempest Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 My Kyffhäuser-Ehrenzeichen 2.Klasse 1.Modell 1934-1935 [N502]
Troy Tempest Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 My Kyffhäuser-Ehrenzeichen 2.Klasse 3.Modell 1938-1943 [N505]
Troy Tempest Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 My Kyffhäuser Ehrenzeichen 1. Klasse 2. Modell 1934-1935 [501]
Scowen Posted December 24, 2013 Author Posted December 24, 2013 Thought that I would post the Fördernde Mitglieder badge, equivalent to the SS/FM but actually much rarer than the SS version. This is the second design, the first used the monument design of the earlier badge. Cheers Don
Troy Tempest Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 Wow Don, never seen one of those before
Jock Auld Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Guys, Another today but it is the NS version. Different pin to my last one. Jock
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