notned Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 Holy Moses!Chris ..that one begars belief! OH my God! Made my day....will be sniggering about that one for days...Hee Hee...
Bob Hunter Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 Only about one of every thousand you see will be real. Am I right, Stogie, or am I right?
Paul R Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 and...... une autreThat would have been a perfect match to the medal bar I bought from you some time ago...
webr55 Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 What do you think of this one? '57 fakes are always difficult, of course. This is supposed to be a Bundeswehr officer. The combination is possible, yes, but still... Finland, Bulgaria, Kreta and the Eastern front... so many devices?
Guest Rick Research Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 Wouldn't the Bundesverdienst Orden come before all Iron Crosses, or did it vary by specific classes?What that '57 group says to me is:Mountain troops. The Bulgarian award goes nicely with Crete (see period photos of Julius Ringel etc etc, having come down through Greece earlier in '41), and the Finnish one... XX. Gebirgsarmee. The classes of awards are consistent with a wartime Lieutenant, though I don't know what the last ribbon is. ???
webr55 Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 And another Vienna sausage, comes from an Austrian seller whose other bars look ok.
webr55 Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 Ok, so this bar is probably ok. I was just surprised by the many devices. This is the Bundesverdienstorden 2nd cl, which at least by some recipients was worn behind the EK1, but before the EK2. The last ribbon is the Dutch Nijmegen march, can be found in many Bundeswehr groups.Wouldn't the Bundesverdienst Orden come before all Iron Crosses, or did it vary by specific classes?What that '57 group says to me is:Mountain troops. The Bulgarian award goes nicely with Crete (see period photos of Julius Ringel etc etc, having come down through Greece earlier in '41), and the Finnish one... XX. Gebirgsarmee. The classes of awards are consistent with a wartime Lieutenant, though I don't know what the last ribbon is. ???
HeikoGrusdat Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 In my eyes the 57er bar is ok, but what makes me a bit nervous is that something like a REAL order (Bulgaria) comes AFTER something like a sports award and a swimming badge - foreign award or not, I would have put this one and the finish award in front of the "non-military" german awards... but the 57er ribbon bars are not far away from the legendary "Weimar madness"... nearly everything goes...
Claudio Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Wouldn't the Bundesverdienst Orden come before all Iron Crosses, or did it vary by specific classes?What that '57 group says to me is:Mountain troops. The Bulgarian award goes nicely with Crete (see period photos of Julius Ringel etc etc, having come down through Greece earlier in '41), and the Finnish one... XX. Gebirgsarmee. The classes of awards are consistent with a wartime Lieutenant, though I don't know what the last ribbon is. ???Hi Rick,The last ribbon is for the "Auszeichnung des 4-Tage Marsches von Nimwegen (Niederlande)" (see link of our friend and collector Jens http://www.rkwetterau.de/html/hauptteil_ausland_oez.html )Ciao,Claudio
Stogieman Posted April 23, 2006 Author Posted April 23, 2006 More Rubbish, new seller:http://search.ebay.de/_W0QQsassZma-militariaQQhtZ-1
webr55 Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 and these last ones all come from Austria again. This seems to be the new Ohio indeed!
webr55 Posted April 29, 2006 Posted April 29, 2006 Alert! A new flood of fakes currently on ebay, a style which I haven't seen before:
notned Posted April 29, 2006 Posted April 29, 2006 Webr55the one in post#221 is a scream! who-ever put this one together has absolutely NO idea about award precendence!Lucky for us that this faker is soooo stoopid!Heh heh!Cheer,Paul
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