Mongolia Mongolian Ribbon Bars

[Bob]

I've accumulated quite some loose ribbons over time and have "allocated" them to various boxed / documented / group awards to make those sets more "complete" for display purposes.

This leaves me with a bunch of ribbons for which I have no direct use at this moment and I am willing to trade (not sell!) them for ones which I am still looking for. Shoot me a mail if you see anything interesting AND have an interesting ribbon to trade it for.

I am looking for:

- Sukhbaatar (brass / cloth)

- Order of Red Combat Valor (cloth)

- Order of Combat Valor (cloth)

- Medal of Khalkhin Gol (seperate, so not on a ribbon bar)

- Medal of Unselfishness

- Medal of Friendship

[usairforce]

I dont know this ribbons name, wouldn't you know it?

[usairforce]

I dont know this ribbons name, wouldn't you know it?

[Ed_Haynes]

Which one?

Will work on a reading of the whole bar . . .

Nice Mongolian "thread" riobbon bar, by the way. The first one I have seen. I associate them with West Asia.

[usairforce]

Very beautiful

[usairforce]

Who know all ribbons?

[Bob]

looks almost like cloth under plastic - first time I've seen that

[Ed_Haynes]

I associate the wrapped thread approach to ribbon bars with the Middle East, mainly with Syria. This is the first time I've seen this ribbon bar treatment for Mongolia. Nice.

[Guest Rick Research]

I agree-- a very nice and unusual style!

1) Order of the Polar Star, Polar Star, Military Merit Medal

2) Military Merit Medal, Khalkingol Badge 1939, 1946 25th Abnniversary of the Republic

3) ????, 1971 50th Anniversary of the Republic, WW2 Victory

4) 1969 Khalkin Gol Jubilee, Soviet WW2 Voictory Over Japan

[Dave Danner]

????

1961 40th Anniversary of the Republic

[usairforce]

Thank you everyone.

[Bob]

Sold to me as Mongolian, but only the first one seems Mongolian to me (Order of Combat Valor). So, where's the rest from? Or is this a fantasy piece?

[Bob]

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=15730

Let's see what comes out of this...

[Lukasz Gaszewski]

An awesome piece indeed! It is genuine I think.

The ribbons I have been able to identify are:

1. Order of Combat Merit

2. "60 Years of the Mongolian People's Revolution" Medal

3. "70 Years of the Mongolian People's Revolution" Medal

4. "80 Years of the Mongolian People's Revolution" Medal

5. "60 Years of the Armed Forces of the MPR"

6. ?? (possibly Mongolian Armed Forces LSM - 20 years)

...

12. USSR: Jubilee Medal "70 Years of the Armed Forces of the USSR"

It is possible that the other ribbons are Mongolian too. It seems that Mongolia has many more ribbons for their decorations than we know.

#8 seems to be a civil defense decoration. I have no idea what it is, I'm guessing from the symbol.

Best,

Lukasz

Edited March 5, 2007 by Lukasz Gaszewski

[Ed_Haynes]

A really interesting one!!

[Bob]

Thanks Lukasz,

More Mongolian ribbons than I realized apparently. Will have to double check Dr B's book because I did scan through it and don't recall seeing indications for all those ribbons but then perhaps you are correct indeed there are more ribbons than we know.

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2430...mp;#entry153904

Cross-reference to the main Mongolian ribbons thread.

[Guest Rick Research]

I'm going to move this into the Mongolian section, since it sure looks like this is a MONGOLIAN mystery and not an Unknown Countries mystery.

Might these unknowns be post-Communist political party or new ministerial awards? The triangle one MIGHT be related to the illustrated Order of Freedom Justice & Unity of the Social-Democratic Party of Mongolia???....

[Ed_Haynes]

Thanks, Rick.

[Ed_Haynes]

Some new ones.

[Ed_Haynes]

Another.

[Ed_Haynes]

Still another.

[Ed_Haynes]

I noticed last night arriving at the Ulanbaatar airport that the one customs/immigration officer who was wearinbg ribbon bars (who also had a nasty quality late variety border guards badge) was wearing the plastic domed variety of ribbon bars, similar to many of the specimens shown here. When were cloth ribbon bars ever worn?

[Ed_Haynes]

The only "official" ribbon bars are the cloth ones. (Since the ending of the lovely enameled ribbons.)

The domed painted plastic ones are all non-regulation, private purchase items, made up by free-lancers who don't know much about ribbons or medals. They are a "style" statement.

[Ed_Haynes]

Another nice pre-1961 effort at reproducing enameled ribbon bars under lucite. This with two Honorary Medals of Combat.

[Guest Rick Research]

Ahhh, what a and yet the 1946 Medal is ahead of both the Soviet Victory Over Japan AND the Mongolian version.

Aaaaaagggggghhhhhh. It drives my neat and orderly desire for proper precedence regulations crazy!!!!! r