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    Posted

    Hello Paul,

    I am sorry, but the originaly meaning of the text "beim Generalstab"

    ?does not mean that he even was a member of the generalstaff. Quite difficult to explain because its german. I am a native speaker, so I dont think, that he was member, so was related?to this staff.

    Yours

    Mav

    An Ing-Leutnant who was a General Staff Officer!!!!! :jumping::jumping:
    Posted

    Hello Paul,

    I am sorry, but the originaly meaning of the text "beim Generalstab"

    does not mean that he even was a member of the generalstaff. Quite difficult to explain because its german. I am a native speaker, so I dont think, that he was member, so was related to this staff.

    Yours

    Mav

    Thanks Mav. So most likely, he was attached to the General staff as a specialist adviser?

    • 2 weeks later...
    Posted

    Something I have never seen before...

    Flying Leaders Insignia!!

    I will start a new thread on this organization.

    Posted

    A very nice set, Paul. Glad to see you got them.

    Gary B

    Thanks Gary! It took long enough(on my side). They are beautiful. I dont think that the tab is from the Flying Leader Corps though... the highest rank stated in teh books is equiv to Major. This one is for OberstLt... My only thought is that the tab is for something else... Like perhaps the Engineers attached to the General Staff? I know that there were some attached, but I dont know if their insignia differed from the regular Engineer Officials.

    Posted (edited)

    Thanks Gary! It took long enough(on my side). They are beautiful. I dont think that the tab is from the Flying Leader Corps though... the highest rank stated in teh books is equiv to Major. This one is for OberstLt... My only thought is that the tab is for something else... Like perhaps the Engineers attached to the General Staff? I know that there were some attached, but I dont know if their insignia differed from the regular Engineer Officials.

    Yes, I recall reading that MAJ was the highest rank in the Flying Corps, but I guess it never dawned on me that these were for an Oberstleutnant. The boards though are for a Major, unless the flying corps used 3 props for Major?

    Gary B

    Edited by Gary B
    Posted

    The boards though are for a Major, unless the flying corps used 3 props for Major?

    I would not think so... Anything is possible, but that would not make sense based upon the logic I have seen them use with rank insignia.

    It is a head scratcher...

    Posted

    It is me or does it seem like the tab piping COULD bit darker on the tabs than the collar? I will definitely make a close up scan of the image when I get home tonight!

    Posted

    It is me or does it seem like the tab piping COULD bit darker on the tabs than the collar? I will definitely make a close up scan of the image when I get home tonight!

    Hello Paul,

    the text means that he was at the generalstaff not in. Its difficult to explain this in english but there are some differences in german. the word "beim" is the short form of "bei dem". if u stay "beim" car - that means u stay near by the car an do not sit in. The same is true in this case. So he was a kind of attachmanent and not a member of this staff.

    Mav

    Posted

    Hi Mav,

    I was trying to see if these men attached to the General Staff had any differences to their insignia. I am trying to figure out this tab...

    It cannot belong to those Flying Leader boards, as the highest rank possible for that organization was Major. The tab is for an OberstLt equivalent.

    The books specify that pattern of shoulder boards for the Flying Leader Corps, but the tabs were said to be the pink Engineer type. The yellow piped engineer tab has to be for some specific group... but I cannot crack it.

    Posted

    What could it be... :banger:

    Here are some blown up images of the death card collar tabs... What do you all think? Is the tint of the collar tab piping the same as that on the collar piping?

    • 2 weeks later...
    Posted

    And another nice photo from Jacques. Notice that he is a decorated Spanish Civil War Veteran. Most likely, he was brought in from the Regular Luftwaffe.

    Hi, Paul!

    Oh,nice pict!! with Spanienkreuz & tab!! :jumping:

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    • 4 weeks later...
    Posted

    I followed up on a tip from a fellow member (Thank You!!!) and have acquired this Fl.Stabsingenieur Afrika cuff title document.

    Bill

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