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Hello Paul,

I am sorry, but the originaly meaning of the text "beim Generalstab"

?does not mean that he even was a member of the generalstaff. Quite difficult to explain because its german. I am a native speaker, so I dont think, that he was member, so was related?to this staff.

Yours

Mav

An Ing-Leutnant who was a General Staff Officer!!!!! :jumping::jumping:
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Hello Paul,

I am sorry, but the originaly meaning of the text "beim Generalstab"

does not mean that he even was a member of the generalstaff. Quite difficult to explain because its german. I am a native speaker, so I dont think, that he was member, so was related to this staff.

Yours

Mav

Thanks Mav. So most likely, he was attached to the General staff as a specialist adviser?

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A very nice set, Paul. Glad to see you got them.

Gary B

Thanks Gary! It took long enough(on my side). They are beautiful. I dont think that the tab is from the Flying Leader Corps though... the highest rank stated in teh books is equiv to Major. This one is for OberstLt... My only thought is that the tab is for something else... Like perhaps the Engineers attached to the General Staff? I know that there were some attached, but I dont know if their insignia differed from the regular Engineer Officials.

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Thanks Gary! It took long enough(on my side). They are beautiful. I dont think that the tab is from the Flying Leader Corps though... the highest rank stated in teh books is equiv to Major. This one is for OberstLt... My only thought is that the tab is for something else... Like perhaps the Engineers attached to the General Staff? I know that there were some attached, but I dont know if their insignia differed from the regular Engineer Officials.

Yes, I recall reading that MAJ was the highest rank in the Flying Corps, but I guess it never dawned on me that these were for an Oberstleutnant. The boards though are for a Major, unless the flying corps used 3 props for Major?

Gary B

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The boards though are for a Major, unless the flying corps used 3 props for Major?

I would not think so... Anything is possible, but that would not make sense based upon the logic I have seen them use with rank insignia.

It is a head scratcher...

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It is me or does it seem like the tab piping COULD bit darker on the tabs than the collar? I will definitely make a close up scan of the image when I get home tonight!

Hello Paul,

the text means that he was at the generalstaff not in. Its difficult to explain this in english but there are some differences in german. the word "beim" is the short form of "bei dem". if u stay "beim" car - that means u stay near by the car an do not sit in. The same is true in this case. So he was a kind of attachmanent and not a member of this staff.

Mav

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Hi Mav,

I was trying to see if these men attached to the General Staff had any differences to their insignia. I am trying to figure out this tab...

It cannot belong to those Flying Leader boards, as the highest rank possible for that organization was Major. The tab is for an OberstLt equivalent.

The books specify that pattern of shoulder boards for the Flying Leader Corps, but the tabs were said to be the pink Engineer type. The yellow piped engineer tab has to be for some specific group... but I cannot crack it.

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