Dave B Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Well that's what my missus thought it was when I pulled it out of the box Thanks to Toby for the quick delivery!Anyway, this piece is quite a well known goblet and has been photographed and used in the excellent Ehrenpokal article by Francois.It is complete with the original urkunde, both are to Unteroffizier Gerhard Glocke of 4./KG 27. He was a Bordmechaniker on I believe a Heinkel 111.Gerhard was awarded the goblet on the 7.12.42(the date on the urkunde/goblet) and the date that appears on the Ehrenliste is 14.12.42, a common occurence I'm told.On the 26.12.43 Gerhard became a holder of the German Cross in Gold.I'm hoping to research some info on Glocke but am unsure where to start, if anyone has any ideas then please let me know CheersDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scott Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 An outstanding set - congratulations!!Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 I?m away for a few days and return to find this absolutely superb set! Very nice, Dave. Seeing that you have his name, rank and unit details, you should see if the ?Bundesarchiv? have his service record. It can take some time, and a few pennies, but would be well worth the effort.I can e-mail you the appropriate addresses should you wish to go down that road.In the meantime...a little background on 4./KG 27 ""Boelcke"http://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/kg27.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted June 11, 2007 Author Share Posted June 11, 2007 Cheers chaps!Yes please John , if you could email me the details then that would be great.Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIC Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Superb Goblet and document Dave, a hearty congratulations on your new acquisition!! ERIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted June 14, 2007 Author Share Posted June 14, 2007 Superb Goblet and document Dave, a hearty congratulations on your new acquisition!! ERICThanks Eric I managed to bag the Honour Goblet Ehrenliste with Glocke on it today so all I need is the DKiG liste with him on and I'll be a happy bunny Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Dave Mate,Sweet, VERY sweet. Congratulations!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Gordon Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Very nice Dave and with the doc too!! Good luck in the research and that you find the DKiG list. (If I see one I'll let you know.).J T-W, can you mail me details of the Bundesarchiv to as I'd like to research my Ehrenpokal further too.CheersRich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François SAEZ Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Well that's what my missus thought it was when I pulled it out of the box Thanks to Toby for the quick delivery!Anyway, this piece is quite a well known goblet and has been photographed and used in the excellent Ehrenpokal article by Francois.It is complete with the original urkunde, both are to Unteroffizier Gerhard Glocke of 4./KG 27. He was a Bordmechaniker on I believe a Heinkel 111.Gerhard was awarded the goblet on the 7.12.42(the date on the urkunde/goblet) and the date that appears on the Ehrenliste is 14.12.42, a common occurence I'm told.On the 26.12.43 Gerhard became a holder of the German Cross in Gold.I'm hoping to research some info on Glocke but am unsure where to start, if anyone has any ideas then please let me know CheersDaveLooks very familiar even if your pics are better than mines (well 10+ years ago) and it was not only photographed, it was one of minesHappy if it is in a good home and, please, enjoy it like I did - yup, really a good set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share Posted July 8, 2007 Hi all,After a bit of digging around on the internet I managed to contact the Geschwader historian(KG 27) and he has been most helpful.Herr Waiss sent me a copy of Glocke's page in the Geschwader archives.Gerhard was from Neum?nster and enlisted in the Luftwaffe in September 1940, at first he was a member of the ground personnel but soon transferred to flying duties as a Bordmechaniker on Heinkel 111s. He spent his whole wartime career with 4./KG 27 Boelcke.List of awards..EKII 10.11.40EKI 1.5.41Frongflugspange in Bronze 1.6.41=============Silver 13.9.41=============Gold 12.7.42Ehrenpokal 7.12.42DKiG 26.12.43and I think he was awarded the pendant to his gold flying clasp sometime in 1943, anybody make this out?...His final rank obtained according to the archive was Feldwebel.It seems his squadron service came to an end in January 1944, he wasn't killed but I'm not sure if he maybe transferred elsewhere or was captured. I know he was definitely captured by the Russians at some point but don't know the exact date, it's in his files that he procured some false documents and managed to escape using them.I think the archives have copies of his citations...see below, does the word next to Urkunden say perhaps photocopy?I'm hoping to obtain more information from Herr Waiss and if I do I will post here.Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share Posted July 8, 2007 I managed to bag the Honour Goblet Ehrenliste with Glocke on it today so all I need is the DKiG liste with him on and I'll be a happy bunny DaveHere is Gerhard on the Ehrenpokal Honour list.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Hi!A fantastic set,congratulations. Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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