Paul R Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Luftwaffe General Luftzeugmeister "GL" This branch was thought to have been established in May of 1941. Documentation has not been found on this organization and all information that is used in the reference books has come from photographs and militaria. The Luftwaffe General Luftzeugmeister consisted of civilian personnel who acted as Comptrollers of the weapons factories in Germany as well as in the occupied territories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted July 30, 2007 Author Share Posted July 30, 2007 Uniforms]Photograpic evidence suggests that members of this organization were authorized to wear the Luftwaffe field blue enlisted style fliegerbluse, with the GL chest eagle(and often seen with both the LW and GL eagles). Despite the availablity of the visor cap with the GL insignia, no photographic evidence shows visor caps in use with the GL. The only caps seen are the LW Flight caps. The standard EM LW belt and buckle are a constant in period photographs.Uniforms of different types have been seen as well, but are yet unidentified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 InsigniaThe breast insignia is a metallic LW style eagle superimposed over a cogwheel. This badge typically has three prongs, which are designed to go through the tunic. Period photos show this badge placed where the standard LW eagle is placed. Uniform regulations do not seem to have been enforced at all, as these insignia have been seen on the Left chest with the LW on the right chest, and ect.Collar tabs. These too seem to come in many varieties.Cloth collar tabs were gray/blue rectangular shaped patches of cloth with an outer red piping and the letters "GL" embroidered in red thread. There would be one tab per collar. Other varieties have been metallic letters "GL" punched through each collar and even patches with "G" on the right collar and another patch with the letter "L" on the Left collar. The same has been seen with the metallic cyphers(one in each collar). Shoulder Straps seem to be the standard LW issue, but piped in Red.There is a cloth breast eagle that consists of the eagle and cogwheel pattern embroidered in black on a yellow cloth triagle(pointing down). The letter G on the viewers left and the L on the right corners. This insignia is thought to be for the work coveralls and other work garments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 Any information or photos would be greatly appreciated!!Kind regardsPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 Some very rare and awesome images from Robert Noss!!! I am always looking for more!! Lets keep them coming! Notice the lack of the NS insignia on the headgear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 An un-upgradeable image!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterL Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 2 related thread over at WA for you if interested.http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...ad.php?t=232812http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...orms+traditionsRegardsPeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Hello Paul, here is my contribution to this very interesting thread. In Germany you neither find informations or photos to this issue ! KR Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Andreas, I like that photo a lot! I apologize for the lack of response on my behalf. I was deployed for a while. I have just received this set, which was a European find. It is the only set of uniform I have EVER seen or heard of!!! I have no doubt of it's authenticity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Here is the backing. There is some sort of metal plate between the liner and the sewn down patch that holds the chest insignia VERY firmly against the cloth. Also, the set came with this jacket! I never knew that the yellow waffenfarbe was used. My theory is that the color dicated position or some sort district designator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 The jacket... I do not know if it is supposed to be worn with the bluegray tunic or by it'self. I think that this is a modified French overcoat, which seems to be commonly used by this group, based upon the photos. The tunic is redyed Dutch captured tunic. Still really cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 Here is the latest set up, complete with a newly found overseas hat. Super rare, but the seller had no idea what it was so its price was VERY low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Hello! My friend! Tis is very informative thread.All this items is a stunner. Best regards,Morten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 Thanks my friend, Morten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryT Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 It's been some years since the last post in this thread, so I am adding something new to it. Cheers, Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 Thanks for sharing that great photo. I recently acquired this image, of the pattern of uniform I posted above in use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Good mornig, very interesting thread. The last picture was taken in front of a salesroom of the Adlerwerke, who at that time (1940s) were best known for their automobiles. From 1909 to 1935 they were also involved in manufacturing airplane engines and later planes. Their HQ was in Frankfurt/Main GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Thanks for that interesting information. Is the building still in use! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Hi Paul, The former HQ is no longer in use as HQ, but some parts of the buildings now serve other functions. The photo itself could show any other Adler showroom in an urban environment Edited October 3, 2017 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Hi Paul R! Here is my contribution to this interesting thread with very scary photos and Uniforms. Cheers, Morten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Thanks GreyC, for sharing that magazine. I understand now! Very interesting. Morton, you scored a very nice photo there. I've never seen the winged device on a GL tunic before. I wonder if this is some sort of rank or paygrade for a certain period of time. I also like to see the LW civilian personnel pin on the tunic and hat. I wonder if the color on the collar and shoulder straps is red or yellow...? It almost seems as if it will be a sort of red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 15 hours ago, Paul R said: Thanks GreyC, for sharing that magazine. I understand now! Very interesting. Morton, you scored a very nice photo there. I've never seen the winged device on a GL tunic before. I wonder if this is some sort of rank or paygrade for a certain period of time. I also like to see the LW civilian personnel pin on the tunic and hat. I wonder if the color on the collar and shoulder straps is red or yellow...? It almost seems as if it will be a sort of red. Hello my friend! Glad You like my photo.I agree ,seems as it will be a sort of red, Best,Morten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Hi My Friend Paul! This "GL" picture came in today's mail so I post a photo to keep your wonderful interesange thread going on ... Best from Norway, Morten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Hi my friend PaulR. A new contribution from me on your amazing thread. All the pictures are from my collection. Cheers, Morten, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Hello PaulR, Any New GL Photo?????? Cheers,Morten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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