House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed

[webr55]

This story from Volksblatt (Oldenburg), 14.4.1932, is about a former Hptm "Hemman" who was sentenced in court for fraud. A Hohenzollern-Hausorden is mentioned, a Princely one?

The story mentions that he wrote a book "Carie's Briefe" in 1904 - I checked it, his correct name is Ernst Hemmann. There is a Lt dR with that name in the 1914 RL in FußAR 3. 

[webr55]

On 18/11/2021 at 22:35, Dave Danner said:

Decker was an Oberleutnant der Reserve (Marburg) in Fußartillerie-Regiment Nr. 9 at war's begin. He was Direktor of the Reichsbanknebenstelle in Marburg. He also had the LD2.

 

Wilhelm Heinrich Paepenmöller from IR 173 was born on 25.10.1887. He was in Volksschuldienst from 1.10.1911 on and was still there in the 1940s, so he should have had the Treuedienst-Ehrenzeichen.

Even more on Paepenmöller, with a picture: 

 

Westfälische Zeitung, 29.11.1934

 

 

 

 

Prof Dr Ernst Meister died 1939: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Meister_(Geologe)

 

 

Prof Dr Conrad Ramstedt lived 1867-1963: https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/11573033

 

Here is his picture with the HHOX: https://collections.nlm.nih.gov/catalog/nlm:nlmuid-101694285-img

 

Ramstedt was actually the godfather of - Karl Lagerfeld: 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Ramstedt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Ramstedt

 

The German Wikipedia mentions that Lagerfeld called him "der schickste Mann, den ich je gesehen habe" - so even might have influenced his style.

 

Edited November 26, 2021 by webr55

[Daniel Krause]

 Thank you all!!

 

still no first namens for the Langes from RIR 39 and 75...

 

Best

Daniel

[webr55]

Prof. Dr. Reinhard Schmaltz is Reinhold: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Schmaltz. Died 1945

 

 

Lt dR Blömeke from RIR 213 should be Benno acc. to Verlustlisten. 

 

Edited November 27, 2021 by webr55

[webr55]

Dr. Paul Blunk (1880-1947): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Blunk

 

 

Dr. Erich Böhne, from Krupp (1890-1979):

 http://akteureundtaeterimnsinsiegenundwittgenstein.blogsport.de/a-bis-z/gesamtverzeichnis/ . Year of death acc. to myheritage. 

Edited November 28, 2021 by webr55

[webr55]

 

Dr. Gustav Duden died 1927 in Wiesbaden, acc. to his death certificate at ancestry. (He was actually a son of the famous Konrad Duden). 

[webr55]

We have an Albert Schmidt in our list, not sure if this is the same one, from Leer:

 

Wilhelmshavener Tageblatt, 4.6.1918

 

[webr55]

This is an absolutely fascinating story, worth an article of its own or even a book:

 

The Dr. Hadra in our list, "landsturmpflichtiger Arzt" from 2nd GardeR zF is Dr. Edmund Georg Hadra, a (converted) Jew. Born in Berlin in 1877, Dr. med. from Univ. Leipzig in 1906. Wounded three times in WW1, he received the HHOX in 1918. Survived Theresienstadt, where he was sent in 1942. Emigrated to South America after the end of WW2, then to the US in 1948, where his daughter already lived. Practiced again in several NYC hospitals and died in Manhattan in 1971, at 93. What a life. 

 

https://books.google.de/books?id=Hk93DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA296&lpg=PA296&dq=dr+hadra+garde&source=bl&ots=COPCCWFSgg&sig=ACfU3U3cO_nZcxoYESn_FpZh5XVXau0cSA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOiZiN7br0AhWHDuwKHVSTCWoQ6AF6BAgYEAM#v=onepage&q=dr hadra garde&f=false

 

https://www.geni.com/people/Edmund-Georg-הדרה/6000000030164240491

 

 

[webr55]

More about Alfred Kupke from IR 16 (spelling with one p is correct). Major (E) in 1939.

 

Jeversches Wochenblatt, 11.10.1938

 

 

Hermann Sassenberg went into Polizei after WW1 and back to Wehrmacht later. Made Oberst in 1940.  

Died in Oldenburg in 1965 acc. to myheritage. 

 

Jeversches Wochenblatt, 3.9.1940

 

 

 

Hestermann is Gustav, from FAR 58. Died in 1935.

 

Westfälische Zeitung, 18.10.1935

 

 

Edited November 29, 2021 by webr55

[webr55]

First name: Lt dR Peter Lübben

 

Nachrichten für Stadt und Land (Oldenburg), 15.5.1918

 

 

[webr55]

First name, not sure we have him yet: H. Becker from Oldenburg, Oberlehrer. no rank mentioned. Hermann acc. to Adressbuch Oldenburg 1915.

 

Nachrichten für Stadt und Land (Oldenburg), 17.5.1918

 

 

[Daniel Krause]

Becker - Oberlehrer indicates, he might be already a bit older.

The Hptm d.R. in IR 364 was a Hermann, maybe him?

 

At least it seems he was no native Oldenburger, otherwise he "must" have gotten a Oldenburger Order of Merit with swords parallel to his HOH3X.

 

Best,

Daniel

[webr55]

I would guess the Hptm dR, too. 

 

Here's another first name: Hptm Herbert Kaase. 

 

Oldenburger Volkszeitung, 18.1.1918

 

 

[Deutschritter]

On 29/11/2021 at 15:30, webr55 said:

 

[webr55]

Ah yes - good to have a picture! 

[Dave Danner]

On 30/11/2021 at 08:49, Daniel Krause said:

Becker - Oberlehrer indicates, he might be already a bit older.

The Hptm d.R. in IR 364 was a Hermann, maybe him?

 

At least it seems he was no native Oldenburger, otherwise he "must" have gotten a Oldenburger Order of Merit with swords parallel to his HOH3X.

 

Best,

Daniel

 

The Hermann Becker from IR 364 was a Kaufmann in Solingen.

 

The Oldenburg Oberlehrer Hermann Becker was a Lt.d.R. in RIR 440. Hermann Gustav Wilhelm Becker, born on 24.3.1885 in Hekese, Bersenbrück, died on 8.1.1974 in Oldenburg. Known decorations are the HOH3X, BremH, OK1 and Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer. He was a junior Oberlehrer during WWI, with a Dienstalter of 1.10.1912, and he was named an Oberstudienrat on 1.4.1940, so he likely also had the Treuedienst-Ehrenzeichen.

Edited December 1, 2021 by Dave Danner

[Dave Danner]

Gustav Hestermann was commissioned a Leutnant in FAR 58 on 30.3.1915 with a Dienstalter of 22.3.1915. He later received a Patent of 11.9.1913. He is not in the SLK list as an officer, so if he received the SLK (which was common in FAR 58), it was as a Fahnenjunker or Fähnrich.

 

It is odd that with a Patent from 1913 and according to the bio spending the entire war in military service, he did not get a Charakter bump to Oberleutnant a.D.

 

On 30/11/2021 at 11:52, webr55 said:

Here's another first name: Hptm Herbert Kaase. 

 

Oldenburger Volkszeitung, 18.1.1918

 

Kurt Ludwig Herbert Kaase, born on 3.12.1885 in Oldenburg, died on 2.10.1973 in Bad Neustadt an der Saale.

Edited December 1, 2021 by Dave Danner

[Deutschritter]

On 23/11/2021 at 21:10, Dave Danner said:

The Fußartillerie and Pioniere also had battalions, but in this case, assuming there isn't yet another Wehmeier, I think you are right that he is the RIR 56 Lt.d.R.

 

The Lt.d.R. Wehmeier in FAR 58 was:

 

Wehmeier, Hans, *7.2.1889 in Minden in Westfalen; Gerichtsassessor, 3.1.1921 Dr.jur. et rer.pol. (Greifswald), 1930s Ger.Assess.a.D. and Rechtsanwalt in Dortmund; killed in action on 10.9.1941 during the siege of the fortresses around Leningrad as a Major d.R. and commander of I./AR 76, posthumously promoted to Oberstleutnant d.R.

Hello, Dave, thank you for the short, but very interesting bio of Oberstleutnant Hans Wehmeier. Do you have any decorations for him in WW I or II? Only if you find the time ...

[Dave Danner]

Hi,

I don't have anything further on him.

[webr55]

There might be a confusion here: We have one Prinz Solms-Hohensolms-Lich in our list, but it looks like it is Ludwig from JB 11, not Ferdinand (Hptm in IR 94, KIA 1918). 

 

Gießener Anzeiger, 13.9.1917

 

 

[webr55]

The flyer Lt Geßner was originally from LGR 115.

 

Gießener Anzeiger, 5.1.1918

 

 

[webr55]

This is probably the LtdL Schmalz from IR 352 in our list, first name Robert. Died in 1921.

 

Leipziger Tageblatt und Anzeiger, 02.08.1921

 

 

 

First name: Heinrich Breuer, died in 1941

 

Westfälische Zeitung, 1.4.1941

 

[webr55]

Some more info Günter Graf Stosch, Regierungspräsident

 

Westfälische Zeitung, 2.4.1943

[webr55]

Here is an article from Westfälische Zeitung, 28.8.1943, which mentions three v. Consbruchs getting the HHOX during WW1. In the list, we have Leopold from IR 75 and Oskar from FAR 14, later FAR 76. There was a third Hauptmann, first name Otto, in FAR 25, but he was KIA in 1914 already. The only other possibility would be the Lt dR v. Consbruch in FAR 22, but I don't have any info on him. 

 

Edited December 3, 2021 by webr55

[webr55]

The HdR Helm was from Polizei.

 

Amtliche Nachrichten des Polizeipräsidiums in Berlin, Juni 1918 

 

The 1933 Schupo Preußen DAL shows only one Helm, Paul Helm, Polizei-OTL in Wuppertal, born 1880. 

 

 

On 14/11/2021 at 12:21, webr55 said:

A very interesting case: this notice from Dortmunder Zeitung, 30.7.1934, is about the promotion of Polizei-OTL Magnus who had received the HHOX. 

 

According to the DAL Schupo Preußen 1933, first name is Bruno, born 1884:

 

He might be the HdL from RFußAR 11 in our list, but I cannot tell. 

Confirmed: Bruno Magnus was in FußA: