Guest Rick Research Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 These are actually for twenty years of continuous service in the Soviet armed forces, from 1918 to 1938, so they are not really "jubilee" medals at all, despite the name. Until 1943 they were worn on small red ribbons which matched a serial number on the screw nut to the serial number in the certified photo award book. In 1943 they were moved to the newly re-introduced Tsarist style suspensions and given a new ribbon design.Forthwith, a M1943 suspension medal, various Award Books, photos in wear and ribbon bars:Closeup of the obverse. The "XX" was originally weakly gilt, but that is almost always gone: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 reverse closeup-- Artillery Colonel V P Izomov wearing the original 1938 style suspension in 1941Administrative Colonel Kaminsky on the staff of the Military Legal Academy in 1955 was STILL wearing this medal-- as was common apparently until the last holders left active duty, AHEAD of any WW2 campaign medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Engineer Lieutenant Colonel V N Podozerov wearing his 1938 on the original suspension in 1940and as a Military Railways Colonel on the staff of the Military Transportation Academy in 1947 with the new type suspension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Pre-war badges came with hardcover red award booklets of the type which would soon be used for Orders Books. Covers of a 1938 Jubilee Medal award book:[attachmentid=11135] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 The two pages inside: on the left, the recipient's photo (occasionally found wearing the medal but not often), signature, and attesting unit stamp; and on the right, recipient's serial number at upper right, names and rank, and date of award. Most commonly the date is shown as one day after that of the institution, 23 February 1938-- which means ACTUAL awards were probably made later. McDaniel and Schmitt show a 1939 dated book, and I have seen one from 1943 for an officer who fell victim to the Great Purge but had survived and been rehabilitated.The ill-fated Major Vasily Andreevich Volkov of 5th Red Banner.... unit was reportedly NOT a survivor: I was told that a large cache of these "mint" award books came from the files of those purged at the time. This document was issued 16 November 1938, and bears serial number 33,511. There were reportedly approximately 37,000 of these awarded, so higher numbers would be appreciated as confirmation."Jubilee," indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Most often these books are battered and worn, as is this one to "Milint 2nd rank" (Administrative Major) Afanasy Grigorievich Zaitsev, issued "23 February 1938" (presumably a nominal date rather than real date) for medal number 2,374:He was on the staff of the Military Chemical Defense Academy "in the name of K. Ye. Voroshilov." Note the old pattern administrative branch collar insignia For a third example of the 1938 award book, to an air force engineer, seehttp://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2236including several photos of him wearing the medal at different periods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Ribbon bars:circa 1958--this ancient Comrade made it to 1968, anyway --and this battered example is a mishmash of home made improvizations for another elderly early Workers And Peasant Red Army veteran, 1960s --for a solid clear plastic painted "ribbons" medal bar mounting with the 1938 before WW2 VOG and 1948, see:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=1160...post&p=8201 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Rick, Thank you for an excellent presentation.Yours truly,Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 That is a beautiful presentation. I will add my 1938 book today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I agree. Great presentation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 And, to complete the images, Vatslav Bronislavovich Lavrinovich's medal, #15126. No document with this one, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 He is shown wearing it in the late-issue 1941 award booket for his 1919 Red BannerFor more, see: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2326 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Nice one's guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Lets try this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Sweet! It works! Thanks Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Last Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 This book came with the medal which was mounted on the five sided suspension bar. There appear to be traces of the gilt on the "XX". I have the medal posted in the thread with my other medals and orders.Thanks again Rick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Can you try for the photo page and the name page separately, but at the size of that last camera scan of BOTH pages? He was "Engineer 3rd Rank" (Captain) Petr Illegible (Amichev?) can't read the fuzzy. NO DATE on that number 35,854 but-- the STAMP is for a non-Russian language authority... one of the OTHER constituent Republics of the USSR! Oooooooo! Have you considered getting an Epson 2400 series scanner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Thanks for the information! I can try and get that page a little larger... Does that make this book rare? (Him being from a non-Russian language authority? One of the OTHER constituent Republics of the USSR? what does that mean?Best regardsPaul Reck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I can't quite make out the language of the outer ring-- it's not Russian, so one of the other "official" Republics of the time inside the USSR. One word of Cyrillic shows on the inner line: "Okrug" or "District" so that identified whicever of then then dozen or so "Military Districts" this was from. [attachmentid=11236]Anybody recognize what language this is, for the issuing Republic? I've never seen any issued except in Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 I can't quite make out the language of the outer ring-- it's not Russian, so one of the other "official" Republics of the time inside the USSR. One word of Cyrillic shows on the inner line: "Okrug" or "District" so that identified whicever of then then dozen or so "Military Districts" this was from. [attachmentid=11236]Anybody recognize what language this is, for the issuing Republic? I've never seen any issued except in Russian.←Rick,How many districs used other languages than Cyrillic ? The cannot be more than a couple! I will have to pull out a map!Best regardsPAul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Rick,How many districs used other languages than Cyrillic ? The cannot be more than a couple! I will have to pull out a map!Best regardsPAul←HEre is a map:http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/commonwealth/soviet_pol89.jpgThe Turkmen SSR did not use Cyrillic, did they?Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Sets of a Type 2 Medal with document go for 800-1000 Dollar now Time to reconsider the collecting field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Gosh I am glad I bought the docs for these Order of Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Me too. I remember thinking that 200 dollars was a lot of money for the medal and booklet as I was paying for it! The only reason I got it was because I thought that it was the first official Soviet medal, so I had to have it.Now, there is no way I will be able to afford one of these! I am glad I got mine when I had the chance.RegardsPaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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