Riley1965 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 If I were to venture into this arena what/which would be the best place to get started? Availability and cost to be considered. Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian J Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 (edited) If I were to venture into this arena what/which would be the best place to get started? Availability and cost to be considered. DocAn excellent choice.The collections of the different states knights crosses, i've seen has been very impressive. But that sort of collection might get a bit pricey in the end.Or why not the states iron cross equivalent bravery awards as an start.Have a look at Dave Danners excellent site.The possibilities are thankfully almost endless. :cheers: Edited July 27, 2008 by RaZpuTiN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 I may not be too objective about this, but I'd suggest Iron Crosses. The 2nd Classes are still reasonably priced, less than a tank of gas, and the seemingly infinite variations of maker's marks make it challenging. The only drawback I can see is the oft heard remark from friends, "But...they're all the same." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 NCOs medal bars-still available for less than the sum of their parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 First: pick a time period. The main areas are 1914-18 or say 1848-1871 as the most military awards.Or pick a State.Either Lippe would be nice... before the award rolls come out and prices go into orbit. So far retail sellers have been too cheap to purchase the recently published Rolls, so if you can FIND some, those awards are still undervalued. Always better to be a specialized collector than a generalized seller. Poor but well informed will win every time. But those Little States are often too hard to find, except by pure chance. (Watching, waiting, waiting, watching.....) Or pick a crossover from your other interests (common theme in mine is "enamel") and seek out medical services related awards. Lots of variety there.Imperial is so vast and endless that none of us can ever hope to be all encompassing. The last generation able to do that (one of literally everything) is now gone, never to be seen on our Earth again.So a subspecialty is needed.Of course, pack ratting is nice. Less pressure, too. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Guys,Many Thanks!!! You have given me a lot to think about. I appreciate your help. Are there certain dealers that you would recommend? Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I can't think of any one who has ever specialized in Imperial German.Stay away from Florida, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Florida? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Florida?think green astroturf backgrounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) ooooh, does anyone remember the time an item was posted for sale on his site and you could see the photographer's NAKED body reflected in the item? eeeew! :speechless1: Edited July 28, 2008 by Eric Stahlhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Hey, I am the original "green background" seller...Everyone else is just a poser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) oops! me and my memory...sorry rick! b.t.w. for everyone else: rick was NOT the guy posing naked.... Edited July 28, 2008 by Eric Stahlhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 What would be some good books to start a referrence library? Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Now there you are entirely out of luck WITHOUT beginning from a focus and working out from there. There are no "general" references to start with. Too long a time period, and too incredibly specialized. There are a number of very good books indeed, BUTone on Saxon Orders isn't going to do any good if that isn't what you're interested in... and so on.My library, for instance (see down in the Library subforum) is the product of 40 years of pack rat accumulation. Those are what got me where I am today BUT and this is the really partnot only do I need ALL those books... there are 30 times as many that I've never acquired that are still "missing" from my Basic Requirements. :speechless1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 What would be some good books to start a referrence library? DocThe challenge is that, in English, there's almost nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 Well, with Soviet and Polish ODM prices outrageously over priced and a problem with English language referrence books, I guess that I'll just have to expand my Indian Army and WWII South African medal collection. Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 (edited) What would be some good books to start a referrence library? DocA must for beginners is Nimmergut's paperback Orden & Ehrerenzeichen and companion B?nderkatalog They offer identification and a rough pricing guide.Next I would consider von Hessenthal and Schreiber's Honors and Awards of the German States This offers a brief history and detailed description of the awards, including weights and measurements. Both are in German, but with the help of Babel Fish or better yet, Langenberg you can muddle your way through and learn a little German on the way For EK's, Previtera's The Iron Time Edited August 2, 2008 by Tom Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 Thanks Rick and Tom!!! I'll not write off Imperial ODMs just yet. I am looking for something to replace my Soviet and Polish collecting. I still want to add to my Mongolian collection. As for Imperial, I like enamel but I know that it will be expensive. Medical awards always interest this Ol' Medic. I need to decide which area I want to explore. Your help and guidance is and will be appreciated. Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 What is the availability and how reasonable are the prices for Saxony or Baden? Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noor Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I think Saxony is much better priced for collecting! :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Hi, Saxe or Bade ? Difficult choice. For me the most important thing to do after you made your decision about which States you will collect, you have to buy books before buying medals. The knowledge is the power. Only after reading hours and hours you can decide if you collect officers medals or nco and private medals. Like Rick said before have a look in the librarian thread and have a look about all books you may have to buy.http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=688&...st&p=141542RegardsChristophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Hello Riley1965,Our fellow Forum members have provided excellent advice and information in response to your question.Beyond that, I would like to point out that Imperial German orders and decorations is a deceivingly vast area which is made up of almost three thousand different items awarded by upwards of fifty different ?states? . Of these there are tens, even hundreds, of thousands of some items and only one of others. For instance, there are around one hundred combinations of the Prussian Red Eagle alone.See what, for whatever reason, appeals to you and go with it. As time goes on and you learn more, you may very well change your main area of interest - it happens to most of us. It?s a big world, enjoy it and Happy Hunting - Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 I think Saxony is much better priced for collecting! Thanks Noor!!! I've looked through this section and Saxony caught my eye. I'm pretty sure that I've found my niche. Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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