Christian Zulus Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Question #131 Gentlemen,after such difficult questions now a very, very easy one .Who am I ?Despite the fact, that I had to do nothing with naval transportation, the Soviet Navy gave my name to that nice & cute ship: 1) What is my name?2) Which class of ship do we see at the photograph?3) When had the ship with my name been launched?4) Where did the ship initially do it's service?Due to the fact, that the question is rather easy, the winner is, who answers ALL 4 question in a sufficient way .Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 MORE THAN 1.500 REPLIES AT THE QUIZ-THREAD Gentlemen,we just passed the the 1.500-replies-benchmark.Congratulations to Christophe and to all contributors & participants .Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Hi Christian,Could your ship be the heavy cruiser Voroshilov? If so, I know that she was completed in 1940 and served in the Black Sea.Am I anywhere close?Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knarf Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Hallo, sorry that I have missed the Berlin thing. Unfortunately I am not good on naval . So I will try: 1. Kirov 2. Cruiser 3. 26.Sept. 1938 4. Baltic Sea First surface ship to get Red Banner, Speed 36 Kn, 113.000 HP, 9436 Displacement tons Best Regards and back into slavery Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Gentlemen,both of you are rather close concerning the circle of people, but the comrade in question had been closer to Voroshilov, than to Kirov.The ship is not a heavy cruiser, but a light cruiser and a very, very modern construction for WW II.And it is neither the Baltic, nor the Black Sea.Special hint: I mentioned the term "transportation" in my introduction of the question .... O.K., now the answer should be easy .Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 This could be the cruiser Kaganovitch which was built at the Amur shipyard; but as near as I can tell, was not completed until 1943? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knarf Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Hello, it is the Lazar Kaganovich Maxim Gorky Class Building started as project 26 and went into service 1944 in Pacific Fleet. Specialists say it is a heavy cruiser and not a light one. Perhaps Christian has got informations which I do not have ? Regards Frank As I said I am not good in naval things. I live more than 200 miles away from coast. So why should I know about an enemy who cannot fire at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knarf Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 project 26 started in 1943 (October) Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Soviet ocean-going NavyGentlemen,for anyone, who has deeper interest into Soviet ships & navy programs of 1935 to 1953, there is a real comprehensive book in English written by the two renowed experts Jurgen Rohwer and Mikhail S. Monakov with a forword by David M. Glantz:STALIN'S OCEAN-GOING FLEETReview: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JI...56/ai_105210233Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Stalins-Ocean-going-...1439428-6928006Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Gentlemen,congratulations to Frank & Wild Card .Wild Card had been first to answer part 1 of my question: Lazar Kaganovich http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich .But Frank answered the parts 2, 3 & 4 of my question in a comprehensive and correct way.So 3/4 of victory to Frank and 1/4 of victory to Wild Card .I think it is correct, to give the victory to Frank and he will give a new - #132 - of his extra-difficult questions to us .Project 26: Light or heavy cruisers ?The above introduced book of Rohwer/Monakov calls the project 26 just cruiser - neither light, nor heavy. Rohwer/Monakov list two classes of Soviet cruisers:- Cruisers (like project 26)- Battlecruisers (like the Kronstadt, which you can see at the cover of their book)Due to the fact, that project 26 are no battlecruisers, Wikipedia calls them "light cruisers" at the Lazar Kaganovich entry.Well, I think we should call the Lazar Kaganovich a cruiser, as stated in Rohwer/Monakov.She is not a heavy cruiser (= battlecruiser).Frank, it's now your turn again .... Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knarf Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Hello, I have to go on a conference now. So I suggest that Wild Card should ask the question. regards in a hurry Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Hello, I have to go on a conference now. So I suggest that Wild Card should ask the question. regards in a hurry Frank Dear Frank,no problem, so Wild Card is entitled to put question # 132 .Wild Card, it's your turn now ....Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Dear Wild Card,it's your turn now .Please put the question #132 to us .Many thanks .Best regards ChristianDear Frank,no problem, so Wild Card is entitled to put question # 132 .Wild Card, it's your turn now ....Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Gentlemen,I have been away for two days on business. I apologize for this late response and thank you for your kindness. I must first congratulate Frank on his victory and generosity. Please give me a day, no more than two, to come up with a question - I have something in mind.Best wishes,Wild Card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 I have something in mind.Dear Wild Card,so, your question #132 will be a very special one .Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Gentlemen,Thank you for your patience, here we go.We are familiar with the many significant events of The Great Patriotic War. Question #132 deals with one of the lesser known incidents but the consequences could well have been the turning point (first clue) of the entire war.On a cold night in 1942 I led a small group of infantry in trucks, along with five tanks through the Fascist lines to our objective. Our mission, against heavy odds, was a success.1. Who am I?2. Who or what did we capture.3. What was the significance of this event. (Clue 1, above).4. For bonus points - what coincidental event was taking place at this time that assisted in our success.I know that there is not much in the clue ?One night... we captured?; but Gentlemen, you are really good and I am betting that you will get this one very quickly. Additional clues will follow if needed; but, as indicated, I doubt that they will be.Good Luck Gentlemen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Cold night in 1942, small unit, turning point... There was another question on such an event. See here the answer to that question. I hope it is not only a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Cold night in 1942, small unit, turning point... There was another question on such an event. See here the answer to that question. I hope it is not only a coincidence.Dear Wild Card,Carol seems to be right - you already put that question at the 19th of march 2007 Had been a great question, but I think, you have to find a new one ... Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Back to the drawing board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Sorry, but it makes me feel good to see that others have this same sort of problem. Don't worry, WC. As with Micro$oft, we await version 1.1 of Question 132. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 (edited) Gentlemen,Moving on, let?s take another look at awards. We are familiar with the important role played by the various partisan organizations during The Great Patriotic War. In recognition of this, the Partisan medals were established on 2 February 1943. According to McDaniel and Schmitt, 56,000 first class and 71,000 second class medals were awarded. Although most were awarded to men and women who did not hold formal military position or rank, some did go to regular military military personnel. So Gentlemen, question #132 (Part 2), sorry Ed, version 1,1 is - Who was the highest ranking (final rank) Soviet officer to receive a Partisan medal and what class was it?Good Luck to all,Wild Card Edited June 23, 2007 by Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Dear Wild Card,during the GPW the highest ranking holder of a Partisan Medal had been their leader, Gen.-Lt. Sydir Kovpak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydir_Kovpak .But maybe a GPW-partisan promoted till 1991 to an even higher rank ?Best regards ChristianGentlemen,Moving on, let?s take another look at awards. We are familiar with the important role played by the various partisan organizations during The Great Patriotic War. In recognition of this, the Partisan medals were established on 2 February 1943. According to McDaniel and Schmitt, 56,000 first class and 71,000 second class medals were awarded. Although most were awarded to men and women who did not hold formal military position or rank, some did go to regular military military personnel. So Gentlemen, question #132 (Part 2), sorry Ed, version 1,1 is - Who was the highest ranking (final rank) Soviet officer to receive a Partisan medal and what class was it?Good Luck to all,Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted June 23, 2007 Author Share Posted June 23, 2007 There are two Soviet Union Marshals who received the Partisan Medal 1st Class... They are :* Nikolai Alexandrovich Bulganin (Никола́й Алекса́ндрович Булга́нин, Nikolaj Aleksandrovič Bulganin; June 11 [O.S. May 30] 1895 ? February 24, 1975), awarded the Partisan Medal 1st Class.* Andrei Ivanovich Yeremenko (Yeryomenko, Андрей Иванович Ерёменко) (October 14, 1892 - November 19, 1970), awarded the Partisan Medal 1st Class.Cheers.Ch.Pics : Bulganin on the left, Yeremenko on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Dear Christophe,congratulations - it seems, that this is your victory #23 .I looked after in the regulations of the Partisan Medal 1cl, but the 1cl should have been only confered for operations in the rear aera of the enemy.Neither Bulganin, nor Yeremenko had ever been during the GPW in the rear aera of the German front line .So, I assume both got the medals the "Brezhnev-Way" .Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted June 23, 2007 Author Share Posted June 23, 2007 Dear Christophe,congratulations - it seems, that this is your victory #23 .I looked after in the regulations of the Partisan Medal 1cl, but the 1cl should have been only confered for operations in the rear aera of the enemy.Neither Bulganin, nor Yeremenko had ever been during the GPW in the rear aera of the German front line .So, I assume both got the medals the "Brezhnev-Way" .Best regards ChristianHi Christian,For the victory, let's see what Wild Card will say... I agree that these medals don't seem being awarded fully in accordance with regulations... But...Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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