Bernd D Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 Anyone pick this bar up?The picture is not so good, but I have a feeling that I don?t like that kind of bar and some its decorations.Bernd
cartoonman Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 The picture is not so good, but I have a feeling that I don?t like that kind of bar and some its decorations.BerndAre you saying you personally don't like that collection of medals, or that you suspect some "funny business" went on, to create it? ---Cartoonman
Claudius Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 I believe Bernd D suspects some "funny business" went on to create it. And I would lean that direction as well, until this combination can be traced to someone.
scottplen Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 I agree I was watching it on ebay it was very expensive buy it now ! I always get a red flag when i see smaller field bar ribbons used on large order bars !!!!
Schießplatzmeister Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Hello everyone:Yes someone that visits this forum purchased this bar (not me).It looks fine to me. The precidence is correct in my opinion, and all of the orders, crosses, medals, and bars look original to me.The MVO III w/swords in gold alone is worth more I believe than was paid for the entire group!Even if it is a "put together" bar, the parts are definately worth more than was paid."SPM"
cartoonman Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Has anyone seen or owned a parade bar that contained the mixture of full-sized and field bar ribbons, that was confirmed legit?
Bernd D Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Hello everyone:Yes someone that visits this forum purchased this bar (not me).It looks fine to me. The precidence is correct in my opinion, and all of the orders, crosses, medals, and bars look original to me.The MVO III w/swords in gold alone is worth more I believe than was paid for the entire group!Even if it is a "put together" bar, the parts are definately worth more than was paid."SPM"It would be helpful to get a clear and sharp scann of the bar, the MVO and to know if it is gold or gilt.What I dislike is the combination MVO3x with SA3bx.
Paul C Posted January 23, 2009 Author Posted January 23, 2009 I was going to try and buy the bar but it was gone before I got back to it. It did trace the bar to a Bayern Major. The Bayern MVO and Sax-Albert ARE confirmed as well as the China medal. I would be happy to hear from the person who bought the bar.
HeikoGrusdat Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 ...........is this a K?rntner cross in the 4. place from the end????????????????????????????? :o
Bernd D Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Does anybody knows which battle clasps are on it?
Guest Rick Research Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 "Has anyone seen or owned a parade bar that contained the mixture of full-sized and field bar ribbons, that was confirmed legit?"Yes. Rather common with large numbers of awards on a bar since it was easier to overlap the ribbons that way. There is simply no way to exceed the armpit-to-sternum physical limitation on how long bars could be before having to use multiple rows. THAT was more uncommon.I have ancient xeroxes from George Seymour's identified recipients collection with the first ribbon-- normally EK2 1914-- full size and the following awards in 25mm widths. That's the only way a staff type with 15 or so awards COULD get them into one row. That is also why sometimes awards were omitted-- to the teeth gnashing despair of Research Gnomes.
HeikoGrusdat Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Does anybody knows which battle clasps are on it?..... Bernd, we two only can see Hophu
medalnet Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Does anybody knows which battle clasps are on it?
Guest Rick Research Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Yes, those match his Seebataillon service.
Bernd D Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Thank you Andreas. Do you have a nice picture of the MVO, too?I. or II. Seebataillon, now it is getting weird.
medalnet Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Thank you Andreas. Do you have a nice picture of the MVO, too?I. or II. Seebataillon, now it is getting weird.
Bernd D Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Thank you very much. Nice golden one.The puzzle remains.
Guest Rick Research Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 This bar has come up before... someplace... sometime. I can remember Bernd explaining that a BMV3X REPLACED a BMV4XmKr when both were awarded for 1914-18, as here-- which I did not know before. Andreas-- have you got this medal bar now? We've got lots of information-- just haven't been posting it if the bar is "out there" still in an unknown person's hands.
saschaw Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 This bar has come up before... someplace... sometime.Great bar, did it come up again? It was on eBay about a year ago and it was D. Niemann who bought it back than. No idea what happened later to it. Still not in a GMIC member's collection... ?! :catjava:
medalnet Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 This bar has come up before... someplace... sometime. I can remember Bernd explaining that a BMV3X REPLACED a BMV4XmKr when both were awarded for 1914-18, as here-- which I did not know before. Andreas-- have you got this medal bar now? We've got lots of information-- just haven't been posting it if the bar is "out there" still in an unknown person's hands.OK, ok, guilty as charged. I should have it in hands this coming week.
Detlev Niemann Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 Good morning,How interesting !I was the highest bidder for this medal bar on ebay.com. I contacted the seller and offered him payment through: paypal, bank transfer, order scheck, cash delivery from a local lawyer to his door.But he has turned down all "tracable" ways of payments and insisted on western union payment.A strange person with propably bad intentions.Interesting to hear that the medal bar does actually exist and finally comes into the marketregardsdetlev niemann
Stogieman Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 Well, let's hope Andreas actually gets what he has paid for!!
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