Bavaria Posted June 20, 2010 Posted June 20, 2010 Hello Claudio Thank you for showing. Your MVK 3. Kl with crown and swords is very rare. It´s the last type of Deschler. This type has an one-piece cross (no separate fixed medaillons) and is made out of zinc (Kriegsmetall). Be aware, that there are a lot of falsified MVK3kr x (former copper/bronze cross with gray/zinc coating). Original pieces have a very specific fixing of the iron swords. Kind regards Rudi
Claudio Posted June 20, 2010 Posted June 20, 2010 Original pieces have a very specific fixing of the iron swords. That's exactly the reason why I purchased that medal bar. You can recognize also from the picture (see rost on the swords); these swords are magnetic. Thank you for your determination of the maker. ciao, Claudio
Sergio Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Hello Gentlemen! Photos are very bad, but what do you think on this one? Looks like a fake, however the seller gives guarantees of 100 % original Thanks in advance :beer:
saschaw Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 That is a 1913/15 MVK 2nd class. To be honest, I don't know if it's good, but would rather not touch it. Curious what others will say. :whistle:
avadski Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 If you check post no. 80 earlier in this thread there's a nice Hemmerle piece without swords. Honestly, I don't have best feeling about the cross you posted above. But peace time crosses are so rare that I've seen 2 (two) so far that were 100% originals. I'm not saying that 'yours' is wrong, it's just the feeling.
Sergio Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) Many thanks Gents! I also have doubts about this item. It seems to me , this is the original non silver BMVK 2nd class with attached fake top part and new made ring. Edited January 26, 2011 by Sergio
avadski Posted January 29, 2011 Posted January 29, 2011 Many thanks Gents! I also have doubts about this item. It seems to me , this is the original non silver BMVK 2nd class with attached fake top part and new made ring. In recent few weeks this seller has been offering more and more interesting bavarian awards. He started with MVO 4th class without swords which (from poor photos) seemed to be a good one. Same week he was selling also MVK 3rd class with swords and crown made of zinc which turned out to be at least a questionable item. Week later he offered 2nd classes without swords one of which you posted here. Both more questionable than the zinker. Yesterday he started another set of auctions this time offering MVKs 1.class with and without swords + crown. Let me say that a serious collector would not like to have these items in his collection...if you know what I mean http://shop.ebay.de/graf-eisenstein/m.html
christerd Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Hallo all, I have some MVK´s in Boxes and need some help to Id the maker so I know if the boxes are the right one I hope the pics are good enough to judge who the maker is Christer Here we go No 1.
christerd Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Another one MVK III , this one is in a box from Gebrüder Hemmerlie The interesting with this cross is that the swords is marked GH 900 ? Is it a Hemmerlie Cross ? Christer
Bavaria Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Hello Christer Your No 1 is a Leser (3rd and last type, produced from ca. 1916 to the end). Kind regards
christerd Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Next one is a MVK III m Kr , this I have in a box from Christian Lauer But I cant almost see W. C on the swords so I guess its a Weiss & Co ? Christer
christerd Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Another MVK III , in Box from Jacob Leser , but is it a Leser Cross ? I would like to get a box to every maker at least III class , 2nd class and above is so expensive so I´m glad if I just can afford a box at all Christer
avadski Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Hello Christer, post 151 - it's Hemmerle, post 153 - Weiss, post 154 - Leser. Would be interesting to post picture of the 'GH900' hallmark. Never seen something like that before on a 3rd class. Thanks.
christerd Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Next Cross is a little more Brownish in colour and lies in a box from Christian Lauer , but what maker ? Thanks in advance for all help, I know there are some real experts out there on these crosses :cheers:
christerd Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Wow talk about fast answer Thanks William and Bavaria Here is a better pic of the swords Christer
KDVR Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 Opinion needed: What do you think, original or copy? Period of production? Thank you for your opinion and your help :-)
KDVR Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 Opinion needed: What do you think, original or copy? Period of production? Thank you for your opinion and your help :-)
KDVR Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 Opinion needed: What do you think, original or copy? Period of production? Thank you for your opinion and your help :-)
avadski Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 Opinion needed: What do you think, original or copy? Period of production? Thank you for your opinion and your help :-) Hello, there's no problem with your Weiss&Co. 2nd class.
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