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    Posted

    Hello Claudio

    Thank you for showing.

    Your MVK 3. Kl with crown and swords is very rare. It´s the last type of Deschler. This type has an one-piece cross (no separate fixed medaillons) and is made out of zinc (Kriegsmetall). Be aware, that there are a lot of falsified MVK3kr x (former copper/bronze cross with gray/zinc coating).

    Original pieces have a very specific fixing of the iron swords.

    Kind regards

    Rudi

    Posted

    Original pieces have a very specific fixing of the iron swords.

    That's exactly the reason why I purchased that medal bar. You can recognize also from the picture (see rost on the swords); these swords are magnetic.

    Thank you for your determination of the maker.

    ciao,

    Claudio

    • 7 months later...
    Posted

    Hello Gentlemen!

    Photos are very bad, but what do you think on this one? Looks like a fake, however the seller gives guarantees of 100 % original

    Thanks in advance :beer:

    Posted

    That is a 1913/15 MVK 2nd class. To be honest, I don't know if it's good, but would rather not touch it.

    Curious what others will say. :whistle:

    Posted

    If you check post no. 80 earlier in this thread there's a nice Hemmerle piece without swords.

    Honestly, I don't have best feeling about the cross you posted above. But peace time crosses are so rare that I've seen 2 (two) so far that were 100% originals.

    I'm not saying that 'yours' is wrong, it's just the feeling.

    Posted (edited)

    Many thanks Gents! :beer:

    I also have doubts about this item. It seems to me , this is the original non silver BMVK 2nd class with attached fake top part and new made ring.

    Edited by Sergio
    Posted

    Many thanks Gents! :beer:

    I also have doubts about this item. It seems to me , this is the original non silver BMVK 2nd class with attached fake top part and new made ring.

    In recent few weeks this seller has been offering more and more interesting bavarian awards. He started with MVO 4th class without swords which (from poor photos) seemed to be a good one. Same week he was selling also MVK 3rd class with swords and crown made of zinc which turned out to be at least a questionable item. Week later he offered 2nd classes without swords one of which you posted here. Both more questionable than the zinker. Yesterday he started another set of auctions this time offering MVKs 1.class with and without swords + crown. Let me say that a serious collector would not like to have these items in his collection...if you know what I mean :)

    http://shop.ebay.de/graf-eisenstein/m.html

    • 4 months later...
    Posted

    Hallo all, I have some MVK´s in Boxes and need some help to Id the maker so I know if the boxes are the right one :unsure:

    I hope the pics are good enough to judge who the maker is

    Christer

    Here we go No 1.

    Posted

    Another one MVK III , this one is in a box from Gebrüder Hemmerlie

    The interesting with this cross is that the swords is marked GH 900 ? Is it a Hemmerlie Cross ?

    Christer

    Posted

    Next one is a MVK III m Kr , this I have in a box from Christian Lauer

    But I cant almost see W. C on the swords so I guess its a Weiss & Co ?

    Christer

    Posted

    Another MVK III , in Box from Jacob Leser , but is it a Leser Cross ?

    I would like to get a box to every maker at least III class , 2nd class and above is so expensive so I´m glad if I just can afford a box at all :D

    Christer

    Posted

    Hello Christer,

    post 151 - it's Hemmerle, post 153 - Weiss, post 154 - Leser.

    Would be interesting to post picture of the 'GH900' hallmark. Never seen something like that before on a 3rd class.

    Thanks.

    Posted

    Next Cross is a little more Brownish in colour and lies in a box from Christian Lauer , but what maker ?

    Thanks in advance for all help, I know there are some real experts out there on these crosses :cheers:

    Posted

    Opinion needed: What do you think, original or copy?

    Period of production?

    Thank you for your opinion and your help :-)

    Posted

    Opinion needed: What do you think, original or copy?

    Period of production?

    Thank you for your opinion and your help :-)

    Posted

    Opinion needed: What do you think, original or copy?

    Period of production?

    Thank you for your opinion and your help :-)

    Posted

    Opinion needed: What do you think, original or copy?

    Period of production?

    Thank you for your opinion and your help :-)

    Hello, there's no problem with your Weiss&Co. 2nd class.

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