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    What do you know about Bavarian MVOs and MVKs


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    • 3 weeks later...
    On 19.11.2017 at 18:30, spolei said:

    Lauer delivers the Ordenskanzlei till 1916.

    Servus Andreas,

    Ordenskanzlei verstehe ich nicht. Die gab es doch erst nach 1918. Es müsste wohl Kgl. Bayerisches Kriegsministerium heißen, oder irre ich mich da?

    Gruß Walter

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    • 1 month later...

    Hi all,

    this is my first post here, so please be patient with me.

    Recently on German Ebay many MVK1st class have popped up, all of which look repaired or restored. I would like to know your opinion on these pieces which sold for fairly low prices except for the one with crown. On of them was even sold twice, but the old auction from November can not be accessed anymore. 

    I myself am very interested in the MVKs so I would like to post more questions and observations in the future. 

    Hopefully this post is not too large. A single screenshot from an ipad amounts already to a 7mb file.

    Thanks and regards,

    Martin

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    9 hours ago, Martin- said:

    Hi all,

    this is my first post here, so please be patient with me.

    Recently on German Ebay many MVK1st class have popped up, all of which look repaired or restored. I would like to know your opinion on these pieces which sold for fairly low prices except for the one with crown. On of them was even sold twice, but the old auction from November can not be accessed anymore. 

    I myself am very interested in the MVKs so I would like to post more questions and observations in the future. 

    Hello Martin;

    I am glad you can join us on this forum. 

    In my opinion, if you are interested in buying MVKs, I would recommend a well-established dealer.  Their websites make it clear that they guarantee the authenticity, and will buying back something if it is shown to be a fake.  

    I look forward to your future posts.

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    Cladius, Chris, thank you for your warm welcome!

    Spolei has helped me via PM to understand why these are indeed fakes, thanks a lot!

    The funny thing is that currently there are more 1st class on Ebay than 2nd class. And we all know that this does not reflect the actual award numbers.

    So, as promised what little I have so far:

    Original post-war bar of Xaver Hauser.

    Swords are Deschler.

    Cant upload more because the system tries to merge the post and I exceed the upload limit. Which was no problom when I uploaded the 7mb plus photos above... Its not much you are missing, just two late war boxes from Weiss with MVK3rd class.

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    • 3 weeks later...
    Hello Martin
    At the higher levels, you should be extra careful. MVK 1 with crown and swords is very often forged. 
    An original of Leser you can see in my post above. Exactly so an original must look by Leser. Other
    versions of Leser are not original. 
    
    Regards Walter
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    Hi Walter,

    vielen Dank! 

    Mein MVK1b sieht so aus. Spolei hatte mich darauf hingewiesen. Daher denke ich dass es original ist.

    Schöne Grüße,

    Martin

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    And you all know my new MVK2a. Its the one from Chris, which I bought from him today :-)

    Thank you Chris!

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    • 6 months later...
    Hello, this MVK 2. Kl. X was an original piece, in which the swords were missing 
    and a damage in the enamel is recognizable. These 2nd classes with swords can 
    often get between 80 and 120 euros. Without swords and with damage, I find 80 
    euros for this peace not cheap.
    
    I hope that brings you a little further.
    
    Best regards Walter
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