kustik12 Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Hello, Gentleman's. Prussian Order of Red Eagle 1 class. Maker mark "W". Size: 59mm. by 59 mm. Your opinions needed. Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kustik12 Posted August 28, 2010 Author Share Posted August 28, 2010 Hello, Gentleman's. Prussian Order of Red Eagle 1 class. Maker mark "W". Size: 59mm. by 59 mm. Your opinions needed. Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kustik12 Posted August 28, 2010 Author Share Posted August 28, 2010 back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RAO Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 maker mark Give us absolutely like the weight. Greetings Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kustik12 Posted August 28, 2010 Author Share Posted August 28, 2010 You mean weight? With or w/out ring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Looks good to me, but I will certainly defer to whatever RAO says. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medalnet Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Sorry, but this is a prime example of a forgery contracted out by a certain German medal dealer, way after the end of WWII even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 (edited) Seem to be a lot of inclusions in the enamel, and the mark does not look quite right. I would defer to what Andreas and Mike have to say on this one. Edited August 28, 2010 by VtwinVince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAO Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 You mean weight? With or w/out ring? Yes the weight with and without loop, when you can. Is it gold or silver gilt? My first look for that is not good. Greetings Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kustik12 Posted August 29, 2010 Author Share Posted August 29, 2010 Seller says its silver gilt. Ask him about the weight. Thanks for your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medalnet Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Wenn man diese Adlermalerei und die Feilspuren and den Kreuzarmkanten sieht bracht man kein Gewicht mehr und definitif zu sagen, dass das Ding nicht von vor 1918 ist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kustik12 Posted August 30, 2010 Author Share Posted August 30, 2010 Nicht verstehen. Nicht sprache die Deutsche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorhead Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 (edited) If you look at the eagle painting and the file traces at the cross arm flanges you don't need the weight........ Micha Edited August 31, 2010 by Motorhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kustik12 Posted August 31, 2010 Author Share Posted August 31, 2010 it's a copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schießplatzmeister Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 it's a copy? I believe that the term "forgery" would be more appropriate. "SPM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medalnet Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Wenn man diese Adlermalerei und die Feilspuren and den Kreuzarmkanten sieht bracht man kein Gewicht mehr und definitif zu sagen, dass das Ding nicht von vor 1918 ist. Oops, I was mentaly in a different forum I meant to wirte as already translated above, that this one has the typical characteristics of a fake. That particular eagle painting design as well as the crude workmanship gives it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I also got fooled once by one of these, but I could return it fortunately (German Auction House). The hand-painting of the eagle looked quite a lot like this piece shown here. I think it's not even painted but it's a decalcomania (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decalcomania ). Ciao, Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Detail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurorders Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I think the range of gold weights on this order and this class might range 25 to 34 grams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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