Prussian Red Eagle 1 Class. 59mm.

[kustik12]

Hello, Gentleman's.

Prussian Order of Red Eagle 1 class. Maker mark "W". Size: 59mm. by 59 mm.

Your opinions needed.

Thank You.

[kustik12]

Hello, Gentleman's.

Prussian Order of Red Eagle 1 class. Maker mark "W". Size: 59mm. by 59 mm.

Your opinions needed.

Thank You.

[kustik12]

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maker mark

[RAO]

maker mark

Give us absolutely like the weight.

Greetings Mike

[kustik12]

You mean weight?

With or w/out ring?

[Wild Card]

Looks good to me, but I will certainly defer to whatever RAO says.

:cheers:

[medalnet]

Sorry, but this is a prime example of a forgery contracted out by a certain German medal dealer, way after the end of WWII even.

[VtwinVince]

Seem to be a lot of inclusions in the enamel, and the mark does not look quite right. I would defer to what Andreas and Mike have to say on this one.

Edited August 28, 2010 by VtwinVince

[RAO]

You mean weight?

With or w/out ring?

Yes the weight with and without loop, when you can.

Is it gold or silver gilt?

My first look for that is not good.

Greetings Mike

[kustik12]

Seller says its silver gilt.

Ask him about the weight.

Thanks for your opinion.

[medalnet]

Wenn man diese Adlermalerei und die Feilspuren and den Kreuzarmkanten sieht bracht man kein Gewicht mehr und definitif zu sagen, dass das Ding nicht von vor 1918 ist.

[kustik12]

Nicht verstehen. Nicht sprache die Deutsche.

[Motorhead]

If you look at the eagle painting and the file traces at the cross arm flanges you don't need the weight........

Micha

Edited August 31, 2010 by Motorhead

[kustik12]

it's a copy?

[Schießplatzmeister]

it's a copy?

I believe that the term "forgery" would be more appropriate.

"SPM"

[medalnet]

Wenn man diese Adlermalerei und die Feilspuren and den Kreuzarmkanten sieht bracht man kein Gewicht mehr und definitif zu sagen, dass das Ding nicht von vor 1918 ist.

Oops, I was mentaly in a different forum I meant to wirte as already translated above, that this one has the typical characteristics of a fake. That particular eagle painting design as well as the crude workmanship gives it away.

[Claudio]

I also got fooled once by one of these, but I could return it fortunately (German Auction House). The hand-painting of the eagle looked quite a lot like this piece shown here. I think it's not even painted but it's a decalcomania (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decalcomania ).

Ciao,

Claudio

[Claudio]

Detail...

[eurorders]

I think the range of gold weights on this order and this class might range 25 to 34 grams.