Eric Stahlhut Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 here's a nice example-- beautifully vaulted, unfortunately with two hairline cracks to the core
Eric Stahlhut Posted January 31, 2011 Author Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) thin core is very magnetic Edited January 31, 2011 by Eric Stahlhut
Eric Stahlhut Posted January 31, 2011 Author Posted January 31, 2011 reverse features a finely drawn pin and hefty catch
Eric Stahlhut Posted January 31, 2011 Author Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) all in all, a moderately scarce example! Edited January 31, 2011 by Eric Stahlhut
Glenn R Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 That is a lovely piece. The pin and catch reek of quality. Very nicely made. Looks like a high silver content from the tarnishing? Glenn.
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Very nice indeed!! Is it a WW1 era piece?
Eric Stahlhut Posted February 12, 2011 Author Posted February 12, 2011 glenn: yep- even though it is unmarked for silver content, the reverse frame is highly reflective despite all of the tarnish. if you hold it right you can view a mirror image of the pin, which can indicate a higher quality of silver. chris, based on the characteristics, i'm inclined to classify this as a later piece. it was probably owned by an old warrior who had to dust off his saber and pickelhaube for the big show in belgium and france, and had the financial means to upgrade his ratty old first issue cross with a spiffy new cross that would look absolutely dashing at the parade or as he was strutting around HQ anyhow, here's a view of the core after i performed some preventative maintenance on it. there were minute traces of rust along the frame edges
VtwinVince Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 That is a very interesting example. I'd like to hear what the EK gurus have to say in terms of who the maker might be.
RAO Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 The core is a typ B, I think painted. Nobody can say is it in original a EKI or a EKII core, backside planed! ???? The needle, I think is maybe from a breaststar. Regards Mike
VtwinVince Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 I agree with Mike on the reverse hardware, certainly looks like it was lifted from a breast star.
Eric Stahlhut Posted February 12, 2011 Author Posted February 12, 2011 yes, it could be a godet core. i don't think this is a put together cross, though. the level of workmanship is very fine, and there are no indications of it having been messed with. everything is integral, tight, and contemporary. i think that what we are looking at is an example that falls into the 'more expensive' category at the time of purchase
Glenn R Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Completely agree Eric, I wouldn't peg this as in any way a "put-together" the parts show too much integrity. It has that bespoke quality to it.
Gew44 Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) Nice cross, but unfortunnaly not awarded during the Franch-Prussian war. the duration of War was 1 year, few time for industrial news same the painting process. All the 1307 EKI, and also the EKII, awarded on 1 year war are burnished and core on die cast. Edited February 13, 2011 by Gew44
hagahr Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) only one thought that is bugging me ,,looking at this ,, cracked core's are a bit uncommon at the 1914 era ... this is looking like a typical dubbel break off the awarded era ... petting this ek in a different category to me... ps ,,pin looks like a maybauer Edited February 28, 2011 by hagahr
hagahr Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) and its looking like it is painted high gloss ,,,al together not a good sign to me, ( some high class jeweller repair or so ?,, no ) .... the cracks I dislike the Moore I look at them,,, someone asking me ,,I wood pass it .as I do not trust this one. all do I know it can be possible .. kay Edited February 28, 2011 by hagahr
Eric Stahlhut Posted February 28, 2011 Author Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) hi kay, i just need to clarify that the high gloss effect on the core is due to a freshly-applied coating of boshield t-9 (as a preservative)...it was all shiny and wet at the time i took the last picture, and not dried yet. also, as far as the cracked cores on 1914 pieces: they are uncommon, but they do exist. i have several other examples that have suffered the same unfortunate fate. that is the main reason i treated this example-- in order to avoid further damage to the core. thanks! Edited February 28, 2011 by Eric Stahlhut
hagahr Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 well,,,,,,,,,,,, lets hope I am wrong ... regards kay
Streptile Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Interesting piece, and in my opinion absolutely not put-together in the sense of being a forgery. Perhaps the pin was replaced? The frame appears to me to be a perfect match to known Type-B 1870 EK frames in use by S-W and (in my opinion) also by Godet. Here is a Type B EK2 from the Jubilee period with what I believe is the same frame, and is certainly the same core. EDIT: grrr.... the file was too big to upload.
Eric Stahlhut Posted March 3, 2011 Author Posted March 3, 2011 hiya trevor, i will post detailed pics of the pin/hinge assembly this coming weekend...
Kriztofer Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 I like this piece and I'm quite comfortable with the pin setup, different yes, but I'm sure a variety of options such as pin style would've been available to the buyer, this one seems to be very professionally attached. The cracks are also not a problem for me either as I have a few sand cast cores with the same phenomena. All in all a unique looking 1870, congrats on a nice pick up Erich. Chris
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