kapten_windu Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Hi Gentlemen, What's your opinion about both medal bar? are the real or fake? i interested to buy one of them but i'm affraid they are not good.... the image is in big size, so i just pot the link.. http://www.shrani.si...1-31-135855.jpg http://www.shrani.si...1-31-135904.jpg regards,, Windu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Hi Windu. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapten_windu Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 many thanks Dan.. :cheers I want to buy the medal bar with the iron cross, but i'm affraid if it's a fake.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 From what I can see, the both look good to me. Can you post some clear close up shots fo the frant and back of each bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IMHF Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Very nice Common German Medals they look great mounted. Lorenzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IMHF Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Do they match up to the battles of the recipient that both bars came from the same soldier? If they do it would be sad to see them sold separately from each other Lorenzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapten_windu Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 thanks Paul, but unfortunately i can't provide it, i just take the picture from his selling.. hi lorenzo, i think they are came from different person.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army historian Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 'kapten_windu' Both bars look fine - they are too common to be "fakes". They may have been re-ribboned (since they are so clean and fresh looking - or just taken good care of). I would not hesitate to buy either. Cheers Captain Albert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) I agree with army historian . Edited February 9, 2011 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapten_windu Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 ok, thank you gentlemen.. ,, now what makes me hesitate is the seller, he just posted 8 posts in that forum, it makes me feel not good.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 they are too common to be "fakes". I agree that that they are both good - however the above statement doesnt ring true every time. More and more common items are being faked everyday now, and you just need to take a trip on ebay to see how many fakes of really commin items there are. I have been stung too many times now to take even the most general or common medal, badge or bar at face value - it always pays to take a second look of ask for advice Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I agree that that they are both good - however the above statement doesnt ring true every time. More and more common items are being faked everyday now, and you just need to take a trip on ebay to see how many fakes of really commin items there are. I have been stung too many times now to take even the most general or common medal, badge or bar at face value - it always pays to take a second look of ask for advice Dan I totally agree with Dan on this... he beat me to saying just that. When it comes to TR I'm just about afraid to make a call unless it's a piece I've owned or at least handled many examples and know it well enough to speak with some authority. I too felt these bars were okay but wanted to let others more in the know jump in. But it's so true... I've seen fakes of the Russian Front medal, West Wall medal... even the War Merit medal and back in the day when I started in TR those were like the lowest of low... you could pick them up for less than dirt. Alot of this stuff is put out for reenactors as well in order that they don't have to risk wearing original items out in the field which I totally understand. But one definitely has to be careful. Never hesitate to come on and ask as it's always better to get several opinions on a piece before you jump than find out bad news afterwards. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapten_windu Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 yes, many people around the world are interested in collecting original TR or Imperial German item.. If they are not be careful, they can waste their money buying bad item that stated as 'original'..-.-'' Windu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 they are too common to be "fakes". This is not true. There are known fake examples of the Hindenburg Cross out there. Every one of these medals are faked, and some of them quite well. These bars are nice originals. I do not think that they are re-ribboned. These bars definitely belong to two different people(due to the way they are mounted), although it would be possible for one person to have all of these medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 The lower one looks ok to me, but I'd like to hold the top one. If that KVKx bright ribbon is brittle/dry (and it looks like it might be) then I'd buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapten_windu Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 finally i decide to buy the lower one (well, i dont have enough money to buy both) thank you Gentlemen..!! Windu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all1knew Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hello there, The lower bar was the better of the two to purchase but in my opinion both are authentic. William Kramer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapten_windu Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share Posted March 15, 2011 The lower medal bar has arrived in my dorm.. The ek2, and hindenburg cross are magnetic.. Overall condition is very good.. It marked Tz on the backing, anyone knows what is it mean? Windu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I think its a nice item Windu - well done. What will you buy next? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapten_windu Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share Posted March 15, 2011 i'm still collecting money to obtain the next medal, last thing i do is trade some indonesian star with a set of grandcross from paraguay,, i don't have a plan about what i'll buy next, when i find a nice item with a good price, why not buy? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 kapten_windu, Nice set to start with on German awards. This is the best way to gain knowledge on German medal bars. Buy a few of the more commonly seen combinations and you will gain enough knowledge to assit you when you want to buy some of the rarer medal bars. It is great to see all of the assistance that you have received from other forum members. Indicative of the way things are done on the GMIC. Good collecting in the future. Regards, Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapten_windu Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 thank you Gordon, as an amateur i have to learn more from the expert here.. Windu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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