oliver860 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Hi! Photo medals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oliver860 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Add. Diameter 36.8 mm, thickness 2.7 mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumserbrown Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Hello everybody, comments (good or bad) welcome please on this one. best wishes Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Definitely not an official medal and I do think it is an unofficial medal either. It is close to the unofficial type 2 in James Michels book but has a couple of clear differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver860 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I see the differences in the figure of Hercules! And the difference in the color of the medal suspension! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumserbrown Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Sure agreed, it is close but not quite the unofficial type 2 , but does anybody know what it actually is?? A modern replacement / copy / fake? Anyone seen one before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Hello Rob, Your item is an unofficial type 2 (Laslo classification). Of interest is the main planchet appears to be of a different composition than that of the unique suspender. This is most noticeable in the reverse pictures. It also looks like someone has cleaned just the main planchet but not the suspender. Irrespective of that it is an unofficial type 2. They have been seen in a variety of different finishes and with planchet variations that are extremely minor so I wouldn't read into that too much. Things to look at would be gently cleaning both the obverse of the suspender to remove the verdigris in between the roundels, as well as making some attempt to remove/reduce/clean the verdigris spot on the reverse. As this type of unofficial medal has been attributed to French manufacture I would recommend that you replace the ribbon with some french produced silk ribbon as then it would be true to type. A nice example in relatively good condition. Regards from Australia, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumserbrown Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 On 28/08/2021 at 09:35, RobW said: Hello Rob, Your item is an unofficial type 2 (Laslo classification). Of interest is the main planchet appears to be of a different composition than that of the unique suspender. This is most noticeable in the reverse pictures. It also looks like someone has cleaned just the main planchet but not the suspender. Irrespective of that it is an unofficial type 2. They have been seen in a variety of different finishes and with planchet variations that are extremely minor so I wouldn't read into that too much. Things to look at would be gently cleaning both the obverse of the suspender to remove the verdigris in between the roundels, as well as making some attempt to remove/reduce/clean the verdigris spot on the reverse. As this type of unofficial medal has been attributed to French manufacture I would recommend that you replace the ribbon with some french produced silk ribbon as then it would be true to type. A nice example in relatively good condition. Regards from Australia, Rob Many thanks Rob, much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maraiuta Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 hello gentlemen, I am new to this group but I have been following you for some time. I wanted your opinion on this Greek victory medal, not having specific books available. I think the ribbon is not original. Thanks for your help. greetings, Luigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Luigi, it has all the characteristics of an official medal. I think you are ok with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maraiuta Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Thanks for the reply Graham. And what do you think of the ribbon? It feels quite stiff to the touch for silk. In addition to appearing also with bright colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Have you tried a UV test on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ura87 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 21 hours ago, Maraiuta said: Thanks for the reply Graham. And what do you think of the ribbon? It feels quite stiff to the touch for silk. In addition to appearing also with bright colors. The ribbon is not original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maraiuta Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 13 hours ago, graham said: Have you tried a UV test on it? no, I'm not sure I have the right lamp. But by feeling, since the ribbon seems "hard" and too new, I am more inclined to think that it is not original, rather than that it is. I was wondering if "on sight" it was possible for you experts to determine if it is original or not. since you tell me about uv lamp, what should i see if the ribbon is original? Do you have any examples in your possession that you can share? greetings, Luigi 2 hours ago, Ura87 said: The ribbon is not original. Thanks Ura87. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maraiuta Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 21 hours ago, graham said: Here I took a picture with a UV flashlight. What information can I get from this photo? Greetings, Luigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maraiuta Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 okay, I will try to do some tests with ribbons that I already know are modern productions and I will compare them with doubtful cases. Do you use protective glasses when using uv lights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver860 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Какой тест на ульрафиолет???? Только слепой не увидит современную ленту! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dron Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Hello! Gentlemen! Need help! Could you please help confirming what type this medal is? Official, unofficial, copy? The cracks on the edge of the medal are confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Hello Dron, Nothing too unusual there. You have a nice official strike (Laslo classification). The cracks in the die are not unusual either given the pressure the planchet is exposed to when the medal is struck. The medal ribbon on your example is of italian production so to be more correct to type I would suggest you replace with some original french produced ribbon. Regards, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dron Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Thank you very much for your answer. That dispelled my doubts. Of course I'll change the tape. Best regards, Dron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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