kapten_windu Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 Link: google.com (i can't attach the link, and i can't type the long address of website URL, i use mobile phone) (hermitagemuseum.com)
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 Lol Windu....I doubt they were still using chariots till the 1950s. Soviet technology may have been primitive at times, with reliance being placed on numerical advantage rather then than technological superiority. But to actually suggest chariots!!!! Jim :cheers:
Valter Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 Actually, suggestion of a chariot is VERY close - they just called it a bit different...
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 Windu, its pointless posting links as general as google.com or Hermiatge Museum..... don't forgot you need to give a definite answer on the thread, and the use the link to supplement the reply google.com would otherwise be the reply to ALL questions!! Jim :cheers:
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 Actually, suggestion of a chariot is VERY close - they just called it a bit different... WHAT!!!!???? :banger:
Valter Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 Damm, I didn't konw it would be so hard... Another hint: persons very often connected with me are Nestor Makhno and Budyonny.
kapten_windu Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 Not chariot of glory? Chariot of victory maybe? travelpads.com/bla bla bla
Valter Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 Chariot of victory - if you meant Indian BMP-2K, no, it's not BMP. Now I must leave home, I'll be back to check answers ASAP.
kapten_windu Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 The russian translation on chariot is kolesnitsa.. Kolesnitsa slavy? fotosa.ru/ru/stock/search.asp?2355803 d'oh, i think no.. (=..='')a
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 The only thing I can think of are horse drawn ambulances or horse transportation of troops and supplies....running dry at this point.... mebbe windu has a better idea..... Jim :cheers:
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 Is it the tachanka, a horse-drawn platform mounting a heavy machine gun ???
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 This is the monument.....in Rostov-on-Don I think...
Valter Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 YES!!!!!!!!!! Jim, you finally find it - tachanka, sometimes translated as "assault cart" or "machine-gun cart" was a fusion of ancient (chariot or cart) and modern (machine gun) and served in cavalry units, most notably during Civil war. Many believe it was invented by Makhno, although it was in use in tzar's army already. This was the only way heavy and bulky machine guns could follow swift moves of cavalry units. It became legendary in and after Civil war, starring in many movies (i.e. Chapayev, Esli zavtra voyna and many others), songs, literature (i.e. Isaak Babel's short story "Learning about tachanka"). It was still used in WW2, although quite obsolete, and was retired only in 1950's when Soviet army disbanded cavalry units. Her bigger, younger cousins are tanks and other combat vehicles, who took both the role of cavalry and cavalry's fire support - tachanka. More aqbout the name issue etc. in wikipedia. On russian wiki page, you have more pictures, including recently restored tachanka that was found in some woods. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachanka http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0 here's the song, one of my all-time, all-world favorite songs; the cartoon is called Songs of firey years. the monument in Kahkovka, nowdays Ukraine http://www.photoukraine.com/english/photos/region/27/581
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 ...and just in case that was the correct answer but the wrong monument...here is another one in the Ukraine near Kakhovka. Jim :cheers:
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 This was tough for me Valter as I was not really familiar with the Tachanka..... had heard some of the songs like "Esli Zavtra Vojna" but did not know that the Tachanka starred in it.... I learnt something really new with this question!! Thanks!!! Jim :cheers:
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 The score is presently as follows: 5 points - JimZ 3 points - Hauptmann (Dan) 3 points - Harvey 2 points - Valter 1 point - kapten_windu Question 15 is next..... Windu, we were really racing for the last answer so I'd like to pass on the honour of the next question to you.... do you accept this honour??? Jim :cheers:
kapten_windu Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 OK, thank you Jim.. We are 13 BIG Soviet sisters, Nikita 'aborted' 17 of our other sisters before they were born, One of us was 'adopted' by Indonesia and changed her name in 60's.. 1. What's our name? 2. What's the new name of our sister that being adopted by Indonesia? I'll add some clues later if it's necessary.. :)
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 That's the 1) Sverdlov Class Cruiser.... of which there were 13...of which 2) the Ordzhonikidze was sold to Indonesia and renamed the Kri Irian... Jim :cheers:
kapten_windu Posted July 29, 2011 Posted July 29, 2011 Wow, very good Jim.. Is it very easy for you eh? ,, Almost forgot, Jim, please provide the link so other member can look the references.. Thank you.. :)
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 What link But you can find them through a wiki search..... Some questions are easier than others and are general knowledge and require little or no search.....others like the tachanka had me lost and searching and coming up with a horses rear end.....!!!! Jim :cheers:
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 The score is presently as follows: 6 points - JimZ 3 points - Hauptmann (Dan) 3 points - Harvey 2 points - Valter 1 point - kapten_windu Question 16 is next.....
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 Question 16 OK.... this question is a tougher challenge as its a multipart question. Being question 16, here are 16 of our top soviet military men below..... For each of them I would like the number of the picture and corresponding rank/title and name. eg: 1) General Kapten Windu 2) Marshal Hauptmann 3) Marshal Valter...... ...... 16) General JimZ Some are easy, others are easier.... The person to answer first giving all 16 answers will win..... so its up to you to decide on your posting strategy... you can either post the ones you know and help the next person along or I would prefer it if you hold back until you have a full answer. However do lets us know many you have identified so far - if nobody can identify them all, the point will be awarded to the person with the highest number of correct guesses. Upon receiving the first correct reply, I will post the original article from which this scan is taken with the name of each of man and an interesting short description of each. Good luck with this treasure hunt. Jim
JimZ Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 As a note... these are top notch people so although there are 16 of them, they come from a very restricted pool of names. The topic is not as vast as you may initially think... Keep the info flowing so that I'll help out with some global hints if you need.... Again, many are instantly recognisable through their looks, insigna, or awards.......
Harvey Posted July 30, 2011 Posted July 30, 2011 (edited) Ok, here's my foray into the latest quest: 1. Marshal of Soviet Union Kirill MERETSOV 2. Marshal of Soviet Union Leonid GOVOROV 3. Marshal of Soviet Union Ivan BAGRAMAYAN 4. General Ivan CHERNYAKOVSKY 5. Marshal of Soviet Union Ivan KONIEV 6. Chief Marshal of Tank Troops Pavel ROTMISTROV 7. Chief Marshal of Artillery Nikolai VORONOV 8. Chief Marshal of Aviation Alexander NOVIKOV 9. Marshal of Soviet Union Alexander VASILEVSKY 10. Marshal of Soviet Union Boris SHAPOSHNIKOV 11. Marshal of Tank Troops Yakov FEDERENKO 12. Chief Marshal of Aviation Alexander GOLOVANOV 13. Marshal of Artillery Nikolai YAKOVLEV 14. Marshal of Engineering Troops Mikhail VOROBIEV 15. Marshal of Soviet Union Semyon BUDENNYI 16. Marshal of Soviet Union Semyon TIMOSHENKO Edited July 30, 2011 by Harvey
JimZ Posted July 30, 2011 Author Posted July 30, 2011 (edited) Well done on the reply Harvey.... You have managed to answer them all. I think the Marshals of the Soviet Union were the easiest - instantly recognisable from their faces, epaulettes and even orders (such as the order of victory in one case). The other Marshals/generals may have been a touch harder, but the epaulettes indicated their branch and the marshals star indicated their rank. I hope it was more trouble than it seemed for all. For the record, Dan messaged me to tell me he had found twelve of these so he also deserves a pat on the back. However, as Harvey got the full list first, he gets the point. Well done indeed Harvey!!!! Jim :cheers: Edited July 30, 2011 by JimZ
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