Mongolia Medal 25 Years of the MPR

[Bob]

Type 1 Var 1 - thick numbers - I have 436 (range observed: 159 - 8,904)

Type 1 Var 2 - slim numbers - I have 16,904 (range observed: 10,117 - 25,161)

Type 2 Var 1 - enamel / guilding - for foreigners (Battushig mentions this one doesn't formally exists; he also was surprised to see it in Herfurth)

Note:

- the original ribbon from '46-'61

[Bob]

Reverse

[Guest Rick Research]

That's the first of the enamel ribbon bars I've seen!!!

[Stogieman]

Better watch out Bob. Ribbon Bar Lust is an awful disease.......... Welcome to the Forum!!

[Vatjan]

Ribbon bar, anyone say ribbon bar??

Here's the lot

Jan

[Vatjan]

Do you have a pic of the reverse of n? 25,161?

I'd like to update my list, my highest sofar was 20008, but I only update if I have picture proof.

Thanks in advance

Jan

[Guest Rick Research]

Ooo pretty enamel ribbon bars oooo

Excessively fussy designs though. Were these always worn as singles, or can they be found mounted in rows?

I don't collect Mongolian... but I might collect Mongolian reeeebon barrrrz.

What is the reason for the design difference in the two types of 1946 awards? Maybe the original die wore out, and higher number ones werre all (?) from a second die? Or were these issued over a long period of time?

Any award documents with dates to match up with the numbers? (I wonder now about the numbered 1961 40th anniversary of the republic medals as well... a new thread subject?)

[Vatjan]

They can be found mounted in rows, but they are very difficult to find.

The best I saw was a three ribbon bar with a large pin on the back.

[Bob]

Ribbon bar, anyone say ribbon bar??

Here's the lot

Jan

And there I was thinking I had a lot with my 7 vintage ribbons in my collection

[Ed_Haynes]

Just as a link to Yuri Yashnev's site on МЕДАЛЬ ?25 ЛЕТ МОНГОЛЬСКОЙ НАРОДНОЙ РЕВОЛЮЦИИ?:

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongoli...PR/MPR25MPR.htm

[Ed_Haynes]

Ok, just to summarize what we think we know on terminology and numbers:

Type 1 (broad numbers); Low = 159/High = 9116

Type 2 (narrow numbers); Low = 10327/High = 20008

Type 3 (for foreigners, on pentagonal suspension); Low = ??/High = ??

Corrections, please.

[Bob]

Ok, just to summarize what we think we know on terminology and numbers:

Type 1 (broad numbers); Low = 159/High = 9116

Type 2 (narrow numbers); Low = 10327/High = 20008

Type 3 (for foreigners, on pentagonal suspension); Low = ??/High = ??

Corrections, please.

Anyone ever come up with new insight on the type 3? Have one offered for sale to me and am very tempted.

[Ed_Haynes]

Anyone ever come up with new insight on the type 3? Have one offered for sale to me and am very tempted.

Difficult. Medals are available, ribbon is available, and the late-Soviet aluminum mounts are available. Use your imagination. If you are happy with the source . . . ???

[Bob]

Difficult. Medals are available, ribbon is available, and the late-Soviet aluminum mounts are available. Use your imagination. If you are happy with the source . . . ???

This is indeed the challenge - although based on photographs the quality looks quite good and it is interesting to note the lack of a serial number without any real damage (although there are ways around this I guess). The seller has a vast collection of Mongolian items and am also discussing some other interesting pieces. Fantasy piece or real, that's an interesting question. Will see if the price is right.

[fjcp]

Funny thing is...... after all these years I still do not have this medal!!!!!!!

Weird..... I'm gonna go get one ASAP!!!

JC

[Bob]

yeiks - at close to 4K USD the price was not "right" for a foreign awarded one for me

[Bob]

not mine

[christerd]

Wow ! Thats the first one I ever seen of the Type 3! Have anybody ever senn a pic of this type in wearing?

I saw it listed in the new mongolian book.

Thanks for showing it Bob, now I have to go and get three more jobs just to get 4K $ .......

Christer

[Bob]

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well, the foreign one is on ebay now and the seller (same as who offered it to me) has dropped the price (starting bid) to 900 Euro...

the pics may be interesting

thoughts?

[corvaton]

super!!! Bob gratuliere!!!

[Bob]

To be clear, I do not own the "foreign" one.

However, and this will create some excitement among us Mongolia freaks, I have just been in contact with another Mongolia collector who ALSO has one of those foreign ones. Oh, and he bought it in Eastern Europe... roughly 35 years ago!!! Sounds to me like the benefit of the doubt should be on it being real. He mentioned the enamel looks high quality and aged.

:jumping:

[Bob]

I took the dive and got a foreign one. May live to regret it someday, but at least have it in hand in my collection now. Scans to follow tomorrow.

[Bob]

Took the risk, quality is comparable with a regular one. And the enamel is quite well done (very smooth on the surface for instance where i'd have expected a bump from orange to the XXV letters).

[Bob]

the ring is uncut

[Bob]

thick XXV, just like in the pics i have from another collector who has one of these "foreign" ones in his collection

Edited March 28, 2010 by Bob