Mongolia herder badges ...

[Christian L]

i personally like the design of this award - and now try to get some more infos about it.

(have seen the other thread, but thought, it would be best, to creat an extra thread for the badge and its varietys)

used the pictures from the battushig book

J 01 - best herder

[Christian L]

J 02.1 - best herder (flat reverse)

[Christian L]

J 02.2 - best herder ("mirror" reverse)

(can be something said, if those where awarded during the same time or is one earlier? and also which one is rarer?)

[Christian L]

J 03 - the outstanding herder

[Christian L]

i know its not much, but thats all i know - hope you can help on each variety to put awarding numbers, awarding periods and also pictures of award booklets (if such exist) or pictures of a badge in wear.

christian

[Ed_Haynes]

A detailed scan of a rather "salty" first variety (B #J01), numbered "380" (and doing the best I can on a scan of the reverse -- those long posts make it a challenge).

[Ed_Haynes]

See also

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5055

Should we maybe merge these two threads??

[Stogieman]

Ed has an OLD one!!!

[GlennC]

I have one to, with lowest known number

[Bob Hunter]

Those badges both fascinate and amuse me.

[GlennC]

I have one to, with lowest known number

[Dolf]

It seems this one is now the lowest S/N observed (at least in the Forum)

S/N 15

Dolf

Edited February 24, 2006 by Dolf

[Dolf]

And the screwnut that goes with.

Is it a mint mark? A maker's mark? Or a "8" ? Why? For what? Any suggestions? Have you guys seen others with this kind of mark, among your pieces?

Dolf

[Ed_Haynes]

Interesting. I just got one in (#155) with the same very crude screw back. No mark identifiable, but clearly Mongol-made. No help from the Friendly Northern Neighbor here.

[Dolf]

And another Outstanding Herder, J 03, a very nice Badge indeed!

Dolf

[Dolf]

And the large screwnut for this one.

Dolf

[Ed_Haynes]

Oh . . . nice . . . the J03s are elusive!

[Dolf]

Interesting. I just got one in (#155) with the same very crude screw back. No mark identifiable, but clearly Mongol-made. No help from the Friendly Northern Neighbor here.

Thanks Ed.

Same screwnut indeed, as for the few others I've seen.

I'll do some research on that mark, whatever it is.

Dolf

[Dolf]

Oh . . . nice . . . the J03s are elusive!

Yes, hard to decide which one is my favorite as I also like J 02 and J 04 quite a lot.

J 01 is the most rudely made, it has it's own charm of course, but I like more any of the 3 others, probably with J 03 and J 02 as my real favorites on this "Agriculture" series

Guys, please check out the screwnuts of your J 01 pieces to see if we find the same or other marks on them.

Thanks,

Dolf

[Ed_Haynes]

Here's a question. I have seen the J02 mirror-backs (which I believe to be earlier than the flat-back J02s) in both silvered bronze and bronze versions (is the silver coating simply gone?) and with serial numbers at 11-o'clock (Battushig's example. #32) and at 8-o'clock (this specimen, #2949). What is happening here??

[fjcp]

Congrats Dolf a very nice item indeed.

Well it would be rude not to share so here goes.

Not sure if I wanna keep them both but they sure look good as a pair.

[Ed_Haynes]

Thanks Ed.

Same screwnut indeed, as for the few others I've seen.

I'll do some research on that mark, whatever it is.

Dolf

And my other J01 (#380) shown in post 6 above -- http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5229&st=5 -- has the same screwnut, but no apparent mark. Will drag it out and re-squint.

Edited February 24, 2006 by Ed_Haynes

[fjcp]

rev.

[fjcp]

2nd

[fjcp]

2rev.