Graf Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Hi, I do not collect British Orders, however recently I aquired this Order of ST.Michael and St. George. The Dealer stated that it is from around 1930 period, however he was not sure. The Order came without box/case and ribbon. It is reduced size -45 mm in diemeter. Can you identify the period? Can you give me any information where I can get box/case and, if possible, original ribbon Regards Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 The reverse side Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 one more view Regards Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Lovely condition. You need to research him to find date of award - could be Edward 7th - George 5th or, George 6th. Contact- spinks.com - who should be able to help with ribbon and a box. Mervyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 An attractive piece with apparently undamaged enamel [often a problem, especially with the centers]. Judging by the suspension above the crown, your badge was not one of those converted from breast wear to neck wear. The crown type is another good 'date of manufacture' marker. Though yours appears British-made, some 45mm size insignia were made in France. Your piece may be Garrard-made. Contemporary cases and ribbon [silk ribband!] may be found in auctions both on-line & in person. Dealers may also have old stock pieces. http://www.ribbonssh.../international/ offers modern made CMG neck ribbon in the wide size at a reasonable price. British dealers sell the same thing plus the narrow 'under collar' ribbon also used with miniatures. Spinks or Cleave http://www.cleave.com may be useful for a modern case & ribbon, though many collectors report 'not useful' experiences with both. Peter Galloway's 2006 The Order of St. Michael and St. George provides full details & illustrations of the Order's history and insignia changes. The OMSA library, co-located with the ANS library, has a copy as do a few major metropolitian libraries. A copy should be available through inter-library loan if one is not to hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 Thank you for the comments and information. I did buy a wide ribbon from ribbonshop international although it is syntetic silk However it is OK and for reasonable price. I will try my luck with Spinks or Cleave. for a box and original ribbon. Regards Graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 Update i found box and matching Miniature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex K Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Very nice, well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QSAMIKE Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Personally I think the St. Michael and St. George is the best in artistic work of all the British Orders...... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 Thank you for the comments I agree that it is one of the nicest British Orders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Ideal that you found a ribbon, case and mini! Is the case marked Garrard, Spink or ...? From time to time issued cravats [both narrow, wide and, very rarely, 55 mm - 2 1/8 inch wide] appear on UK ebay or in dealer stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 Hi 922F, Thank you for the comments Here are more pictures BTW I have the two types ribbons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QSAMIKE Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) Here are a couple of pictures from my collection....... GRAND COMMANDER ORDER OF THE ORDER OF ST. MICHAEL AND ST. GEORGE. There is an old joke about the way some people look towards the various grades..... C.M.G. (COMMANDER) Actually means: CALL ME GOD K.C.M.G. (KNIGHT COMMANDER) KINDLY CALL ME GOD G.C.M. G. (GRAND COMMANDER) GOD CALLS ME GOD Mike Edited June 12, 2021 by QSAMIKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, QSAMIKE said: There is an old joke about the way some people look towards the various grades..... C.M.G. (COMMANDER) Actually means: CALL ME GOD K.C.M.G. (KNIGHT COMMANDER) KINDLY CALL ME GOD G.C.M. G. (GRAND COMMANDER) GOD CALLS ME GOD Brilliant ??? Edited June 13, 2021 by Herman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddywhack Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) On 13/06/2021 at 20:28, Herman said: Here's a quote from"yes prime minister" Bernard Woolley: In the service, CMG stands for Call Me God. And KCMG for Kindly Call Me God. Hacker: What does GCMG stand for? Bernard: God Calls Me God Edited June 15, 2021 by paddywhack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 That is very interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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