Waldeck Two Waldeck bars

[webr55]

Waldeck bars aren't that common; by chance I recently got two of them.

#1:

[webr55]

The back:

[webr55]

I think this is a Bavarian doctor, with EK2, BMVO (probably 4X?), King Ludwig Cross, Saxon War Merit Cross, Bavarian DA, Waldeck (grade?), Austrian Red Cross Decoration and Hindenburg.

I was unable to ID him, however. Couldn't find him in the Waldeck lists. Not too many Bavarians got the Waldeck Order.

[webr55]

#2:

This should be an NCO, with two grades of the Waldeck order (swords missing on the second one), and the Sachsen-Weimar General Honor Decoration.

[webr55]

Back, typical 1920s self-made:

[Deruelle]

Impressive, congrats for your purchase

Christophe

[Poulton Palmer]

Hi, I like these also, especially the first.

Two nice hinges (hope this is the right word) on the back.

Is the width of the first ribbon bar a little bit bigger than by most ribbon bars?

Greetings Poulton.

[Paul R]

Congrats. Those are some of the more colorful bars.

[webr55]

Hi, I like these also, especially the first.

Two nice hinges (hope this is the right word) on the back.

Is the width of the first ribbon bar a little bit bigger than by most ribbon bars?

Greetings Poulton.

Yes, the ribbons are of the wider type, except for the first and last one, the EK and Hindenburg. This overlapping style was more in use during and immediately after WW1, but apparently this guy liked it.

[saschaw]

I was unable to ID him, however. Couldn't find him in the Waldeck lists. Not too many Bavarians got the Waldeck Order.

Don't think this is an old one. A bunch of this oddly mounted bars was sold some years ago, all from the same seller, and this was probably one of them.

The 2nd one is very nice, of course!

[webr55]

Don't think this is an old one. A bunch of this oddly mounted bars was sold some years ago, all from the same seller, and this was probably one of them.

The 2nd one is very nice, of course!

That would surprise me. The construction is unusual, but neatly done.

[saschaw]

That would surprise me. The construction is unusual, but neatly done.

Indeed, it's hobby full of surprises...

[redeagleorder]

The top bar is an enlisted man's, an officer would have had the 1905 jubilee medal if he had the long service award. The Ludwig cross is not meant to be worn with any other bavarian war decoration, but this is a rule we've seen broken a few times. Just a couple of points i though i'd throw in.

Matthew

Edited March 24, 2013 by redeagleorder

[webr55]

Re: the top bar.

Sascha mentioned two years ago (see above) that this is a fake, maybe an older type of fake that came in a bunch from the same seller. I think Sascha may be right: Huesken is currently selling the bar below, which is a quite similar construction, odd combination of ribbons too:

Has anyone seen similar ones?