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    Burned Below The Waterline: An Ushakov/"American" Group


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    Guest Rick Research
    Posted (edited)

    Thanks to the Traveling Museum--meet very young, horribly wounded, super-humanly brave minesweeper Petty Officer Petr Korneevich Kochetkov.

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    Guest Rick Research
    Posted (edited)

    I'll just post the translations because the Soviet paperwork--aside from his Orders Book--is tough to read.

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    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    The deed for which he earned his 1942 screwback Red Banner!

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted (edited)

    Young Kochetkov's Ushakov Medal

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    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    Citation for the Ushakov Medal

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted (edited)

    Detecting a pattern of behaviour here? The horrific risks involved in inshore minesweeping under contaant enemy fire?

    And, oh yes... that casual mention of the very early AMERICAN award he recieved at some unspecified time between his Red Banner and the Ushakov Medal?

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    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    What can one say about "normal" award of a U.S. Navy Distinguished Service Medal? "Normally" presented to ... Admirals? :Cat-Scratch::o Apparently the Soviet Comraids who were handed random selections of U.S. awards to distribute at their whim thought a "medal" was... a MEDAL! :whistle:

    Citation for Kochetkov's very nice "thin" OPW2

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    And then... what? We always wonder what did life in the post-victory Soviet Union have in store for Petr Korneevich Kochetko?

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    No, just the mentions on his Soviet award recommendations. I doubt the poor mangled young man ever knew he'd received a decoration American ADMIRALS lust for!

    Posted

    I saw the American medal entitled in the awards summary of 1947. It was an amazing and lovely group. It was interesting that he was wounded badly in the stomach by a bomb shell in the summer ( surviving a gut wound in a Soviet hospital means this guy was made of cast iron I reckon) and then acted bravely in combat against the Finnish shore batteries .......

    Posted

    No wonder I felt that this group looks vaguely familar ...

    11 years is a looooooong time ;)

    http://soviet-awards.com/forum/soviet-military-awards/researchers-corner/researched-award-groups/592-petr-korneevich-kochetkov.html

    By the way according to Ed Maier only 22 Navy DSM's were awarded to Soviets.

    According to OMSA article only 20 (Army?) DSM's were awarded to Soviets.

    Dave Danner wrote in this thread http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/8433-us-army-decorations-awarded-to-red-army-personnel-in-world-war-ii/ (post #15) that "During World War Two, the Army awarded approximately 9 DSMs to lieutenant colonels, 2 to majors and 2 to enlisted".

    So how many DSMs (Army and Navy) were issued?

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    Yeah, the same groups keeping circling around no matter what. We've been able to document (paper cataalogs folks, Eternal Paper) British Napoleonic groups continuously from the 1870s.

    Some day that will be true of groups like this too. Assuming western civilization still exists....

    Posted

    This is the best of the best. I have been looking for a nice Ushakov grouping for a long time. I would have to make payments on something like that for a couple of years.

    Posted

    I wonder how many Soviets who did something during the war that led to their being given recognition by Western states, survived Stalin's post-war purges? Stalin's paranoia was a bad thing to be on the wrong side of, and being one of the few Soviets to be awarded a prestigious award might have could have resulted in a death sentence, deportation to the east and years of hard labor, or both.

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    Stalin's paranoia was a bad thing to be on the wrong side of, and being one of the few Soviets to be awarded a prestigious award might have could have resulted in a death sentence, deportation to the east and years of hard labor, or both.

    I think most of them survived since there were no large-scale

    .... Stalin's post-war purges

    At least among military personal ;)

    Year/Convicted/Executed

    1945

    126000

    10600

    ---

    1946

    105580

    2270

    ---

    1947

    67590

    900

    ---

    1948

    68380

    None

    ---

    1949

    72520

    None

    ---

    1950

    59350

    470

    ;)

    Edited by JapanX
    Posted

    I really want this group... I would sell a lung for it... I only smoked for 15 years, but quit back in '05. They are almost as good as new!

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    Hey! You used to live right here in the heart of Traveling Museum country and could never get you to visit. Now.....

    :P

    Posted

    Hey! You used to live right here in the heart of Traveling Museum country and could never get you to visit. Now.....

    :P

    I know... I was living under an oppressed state then. I have since "unstrapped" myself of that burden!

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