slava1stclass Posted April 12, 2016 Author Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) On 8/23/2015 at 11:05, slava1stclass said: Gents, An outstanding Category 1 Full Cavalier set currently available at auction. Opening bid is $17,350.00. It's been quite some time since a set this nice has hit the market. Regards, slava1stclass Gents, With no takers thus far, the opening bid was recently lowered to $16,000.00. Regards, slava1stclass Edited April 12, 2016 by slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted April 24, 2016 Author Posted April 24, 2016 On 12/17/2015 at 22:02, slava1stclass said: Gents, A Category 7 Full Cavalier set currently up for auction. Opening bid is $16,000.00. Regards, slava1stclass Gents, With no takers thus far, the opening bid was recently lowered to $12,500.00. Regards, slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted June 26, 2016 Author Posted June 26, 2016 Gents, As things have been relatively quiet of late, I thought I'd post this set from days gone by. Its $4,400.00 purchase price suggests it was on the market sometime in the early 2000s. One of the other NYC-area dealers had offered it. While all the orders appear good, the OGII's number appears to have been altered to match the set. Regards, slava1stclass
Christian Zulus Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 3 hours ago, slava1stclass said: Gents, As things have been relatively quiet of late, I thought I'd post this set from days gone by. Its $4,400.00 purchase price suggests it was on the market sometime in the early 2000s. One of the other NYC-area dealers had offered it. While all the orders appear good, the OGII's number appears to have been altered to match the set. Regards, slava1stclass Well, the s/n. of the OGII is a rather crude fake ;-)
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 Hi, just out of intrest, and knowing nothing about these.... I read the OGII engraving is fake, so as a complete Ignoramus let me guess.... it is the one in the middle? Even as someone who just occasionally sees Russian engraving, the numbers look very unusual? Best Chris
Christian Zulus Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 Yes, dear Chris, the one in the middle! First the style of the engraved numbers is totally unusal in Russia. Second the engraving is not done in a professional and fluent way. Third the number "1" is done in a typical anglo-saxon style. Question to slava1stclass: The price of 4.4 k USD is not a current sales price? If you deduct the actual price for one ounce of pure gold, it seems a bit too cheap.
slava1stclass Posted June 27, 2016 Author Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) 19 hours ago, Christian Zulus said: Well, the s/n. of the OGII is a rather crude fake ;-) 11 hours ago, Christian Zulus said: Question to slava1stclass: The price of 4.4 k USD is not a current sales price? If you deduct the actual price for one ounce of pure gold, it seems a bit too cheap. Gents, As noted in my original post, while the OGII order itself appears legitimate, its serial number was altered to match this Full Cavalier's awarded OGII serial number. As also noted in my original post, the $4,400.00 purchase price dates to the early 2000s and is not reflective of current market asking prices for a comparable set. Said prices tend to range from $12,500.00 to $18,000.00 depending on the orders' condition and any accompanying documentation; the point of sale i.e., in the former Soyuz or in the West; and the Full Cavalier's combat pedigree which is a combination of the awardee's military occupational specialty, Guards status and the actual OGI award recommendation write up. As an example, a knock-you-off-your-feet OGI recommendation that is very fact filled and descriptive - regardless of MOS, Guards status or location of cited action - will always command a premium as will Full Cavalier sets whose OGI is based on a late-war descriptive recommendation for action in Koenigsberg or Berlin. Regards, slava1stclass Edited June 27, 2016 by slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted July 13, 2016 Author Posted July 13, 2016 Gents, While not the best image, this very crusty Category 7 Full Cavalier set to Ya. L. Gladkiy was up for auction this past April in Ukraine. The opening bid was set at just over $16,000.00. Regards, slava1stclass
Christian Zulus Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Dear slava1stclass, do you have any informations about the hammer-price (incl. fees), if it was sold? Kind regards Christian
slava1stclass Posted July 13, 2016 Author Posted July 13, 2016 10 minutes ago, Christian Zulus said: Dear slava1stclass, do you have any informations about the hammer-price (incl. fees), if it was sold? Kind regards Christian Christian, The two-week auction's opening bid was set at 400,000 Hryvnia (the Ukrainian currency) and ended at that amount with two total bids placed. I can only assume the set sold. This particular Ukrainian online auction site assesses a 1% commission on all sales greater than 8,000 Hryvnia. In this instance, that would have amounted to a $160.00 commission. Regards, slava1stclass
Christian Zulus Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Many thanks for the information, dear slava1stclass!
slava1stclass Posted August 6, 2016 Author Posted August 6, 2016 (edited) Gents, This loose OGII to a Full Cavalier sold in April 2016 somewhere in the $700.00 to $800.00 range. Sale was in the former Soyuz. Regards, slava1stclass Edited August 6, 2016 by slava1stclass
mihaizaha Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 Dear gents! What do you think about this one? Original?Any help appreciated! Thank you in advance! Mihai Z.
Christian Zulus Posted August 9, 2016 Posted August 9, 2016 On 6.8.2016 at 21:02, slava1stclass said: Gents, This loose OGII to a Full Cavalier sold in April 2016 somewhere in the $700.00 to $800.00 range. Sale was in the former Soyuz. Regards, slava1stclass Rather moderate price! 2 hours ago, mihaizaha said: Nobody can or want to help? A bit "overpolished" ;-) , but looks authentic! 3rd classes are usually not faked.
USSR Posted August 9, 2016 Posted August 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Christian Zulus said: Rather moderate price! A bit "overpolished" ;-) , but looks authentic! 3rd classes are usually not faked. I agree in both cases!
slava1stclass Posted August 9, 2016 Author Posted August 9, 2016 On 8/7/2016 at 02:54, mihaizaha said: Dear gents! What do you think about this one? Original?Any help appreciated! Thank you in advance! Mihai Z. Mihai Z., In the future, please do not post such requests in this thread. This thread is reserved for discussions relating to Orders of Glory associated with Full Cavaliers. Please feel free to start a separate thread/topic when you seek opinions on a given order/medal. Thank you. Regards, slava1stclass
mihaizaha Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 Thank you guys! 5 hours ago, slava1stclass said: Mihai Z., In the future, please do not post such requests in this thread. This thread is reserved for discussions relating to Orders of Glory associated with Full Cavaliers. Please feel free to start a separate thread/topic when you seek opinions on a given order/medal. Thank you. Regards, slava1stclass I m sorry sir for the mix up! Can the moderators cut of my bit out? Best regards, Mihai
Egorka Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) On 20 March 2016 at 16:48, Gerd Becker said: Thats true. But i wouldn´t count out the possibility, that these were stored for a long time and the vet just didn´t care about the suspensions and they got lost along the way. They may have never been worn again after the war, who knows... Oh, he did wear them all right! Челиков Владимир Иванович 05.03.1915 - 07.10.2008 Edited September 4, 2016 by Egorka
slava1stclass Posted September 18, 2016 Author Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Gents, A group of Full Cavalier-related documents to a Guards airborne sapper. It is currently available at auction in the former Soyuz with an opening bid of slightly under $1,000.00. Among the items included are his Full Cavalier booklet, his orders booklet and his 1985 jubilee award OPWI booklet. Regards, slava1stclass Edited September 18, 2016 by slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted September 23, 2016 Author Posted September 23, 2016 Gents, Currently available on the well-known auction site for a buy-it-now price of $3,500.00. The orders booklet and OGII only first surfaced at auction in Ukraine a couple of years back. Since then, the "OGIII" has now suddenly appeared. While I'm confident in the OGII's and orders booklet's authenticity, I can't say the same for the OGIII based on the images below. While the OGIII's "serial number" matches that awarded to the Full Cavalier in question, the likelihood of the original OGIII being found and then reunited with the OGII and orders booklet seems remote at best. The seller is in Latvia and has a solid eBay reputation. In any event, this an interesting offering as the Full Cavalier in question initially served in an airborne unit and later transitioned to duties as an aerial gunner/radio operator in an IL-2 Shturmovik ground attack aircraft. His OGIII recommendation included credit for shooting down a German aircraft. His IL-2 pilot would go on to earn the HSU title. Regards, slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted September 24, 2016 Author Posted September 24, 2016 Gents, A beautiful ribbon rack to Full Cavalier G. D. Kokozashvili that sold for $120.00 at auction in the former Soyuz two years ago. It was accompanied by several documents including those for his Caucasus, Warsaw, Berlin and VoG medals. Regards, slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted September 25, 2016 Author Posted September 25, 2016 Gents, A Bravery Medal and another nice ribbon rack attributed to Full Cavalier V. I. Finogenov that recently sold for $130.00 at auction in the former Soyuz. Regards, slava1stclass
slava1stclass Posted September 29, 2016 Author Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) On 9/23/2016 at 15:51, slava1stclass said: Gents, Currently available on the well-known auction site for a buy-it-now price of $3,500.00. The orders booklet and OGII only first surfaced at auction in Ukraine a couple of years back. Since then, the "OGIII" has now suddenly appeared. While I'm confident in the OGII's and orders booklet's authenticity, I can't say the same for the OGIII based on the images below. While the OGIII's "serial number" matches that awarded to the Full Cavalier in question, the likelihood of the original OGIII being found and then reunited with the OGII and orders booklet seems remote at best. The seller is in Latvia and has a solid eBay reputation. In any event, this an interesting offering as the Full Cavalier in question initially served in an airborne unit and later transitioned to duties as an aerial gunner/radio operator in an IL-2 Shturmovik ground attack aircraft. His OGIII recommendation included credit for shooting down a German aircraft. His IL-2 pilot would go on to earn the HSU title. Regards, slava1stclass Gents, Although I had my reservations, a knowledgeable fellow collector has confirmed the OGIII's authenticity. One correction. Osipov's OGIII recommendation credited him with damaging and not shooting down a Me-109 fighter. After three long bursts from his machine gun, the German fighter began trailing smoke and returned to its lines. Regards, slava1stclass Edited September 29, 2016 by slava1stclass
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