Knight cross with X of the Crown Order of Wurttemberg

[Deruelle]

Hi

Your ribbon bar is very nice indeed.

Christophe

[dedehansen]

Hi Christophe,

is it possible to ID the former recipient from this plundered medal bar?

Every help appreciated

Andreas

 

[Deruelle]

Very nice Andreas, but it will be not simple to id it. Hohenzollern, with probably BMV4xKr, SA3aX, WK3X, BZ3aX. Will see if it is easy or not.

Christophe

[Deruelle]

Hi Andreas after the HIndenburg cross, is it the China medal ? And the Red Eagle Order ? I can't see the Centenary medal. Look strange but possible

 

Christophe

[dedehansen]

Hi Christophe,

China medal and Red Eagle Order yes, but no Centenary medal and no long service cross.

I think some sort like staff officer.

Andreas

[Deruelle]

Probably a Major, will see in books and come back soon

[Deruelle]

Hi Andreas

 

I have found one Prussian Major with

EK2, HHO3X, BZ3aX, BMVO4XKr, Sa3aX, RAO4 : Major Albert Frhr von Coburg

and Two others Majors with

EK2, HHO3X, BZ3aX, BMVO4XKr, Sa3aXKr, RAO4 : Major Paul Helfritz and Major Viktor Keller.

I know no list of the WK3X so I can't find the exact name, sorry

 

Christophe

[scottplen]

Sad it was trashed !!! Why do they do it ???

 

[Deruelle]

to sell it and make more profit. That's the only reason

 

[Paul R]

Beyond tragic, but at least it is not completely destroyed.   I have one such bar, but thank God the ribbons are beautifully intact.

 

[scottplen]

It must have been a thing  beauty !

So sad history ripped apart !

[Wild Card]

Medal bar and miniature medal/ribbon bar to Major zD Lothar Bollstetter, Cdr. Landwehrbezirk Calw. Sorry, no lions.

[chuck]

very nice, would the cross be made by foehr since it has a ring attachment for the swords??

regards,

chuck

[Cartaphilus]

Hello friends.

 

The Military Order of Merit was theoretically the main military decoration of the Kingdom of Württemberg. And, after her, the Order of the Crown and the Friedrich Order.

But if we look at the numbers, we see that between 1914 and 1918 the Order of the Crown was much more exclusive and was granted in much smaller quantities than the Military Merit Order. In fact, Military Merit Order seems to be a relatively common decoration, if we compare it with Prussian Pour le Merite, Saxon Saint Heinrich, Bavarian Max-Joseph or Friedrich Carl Order from Baden.

 

So, my question is: what was hierarchically the first military decoration in the Württemberg system? The Order of the Crown or the  Military Merit Order?

 

Thanks for any help or answer.

 

 

[Deruelle]

Hi,

This is the Order of the Crown which is the first order of the Kingdom of Wurttemberg

 

Christophe

[chuck]

Hello All,

  According to Neal O'Conner (Aviation Awards of Imperial Germany, Volume IV, pg16.) their is no formal order of precedence for civilian even though the Crown Order was worn in practice ahead of the Military Merit Order. To confuse the lack of published guidance a 1905 inquiry to the order chancellor states the Military Merit Order was worn in front of the Crown Order with Swords on the Orders Schnalle for officers.

 

Interesting??

Chuck

 

 

[Cartaphilus]

Yes, very interesting. From my point of view, the most prestigious order must be the least awarded: the Order of the Crown.