Guest Rick Research Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 I just realized we don't have a thread ONLY on these Orders!Here is a "SA3aXmKr" from a local collection:[attachmentid=34117]Marked "R" on the rim of the lower arm, you don't even need to check there for the mark-- Roesner's peculiar, characteristic puny crossguards on the swords are an immediate maker tip off.The WW1 Rolls are, unfortunately, not entirely complete. (many simply have "1918" as award date and we note occasional documented examples not on the rolls at all) but from the published Rolls209 were issued as direct first time awards to Majors and Lieutenant Colonels1,149 Crowns were added as second awards to SA3aXs29 Xs and Crowns were added to peacetime SA3asand72 Xs were added to peacetime SA3amKrsfor a known total of 1,459. Say roughly 1,500 of these for WW1-- by ALL makers combined.
medalnet Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) Oh boy, I used to collect those before I went to college and had to live off my collection. Very interesting and those days (talking 80th) very inexpensive. The fall of the wall changed that.Here a golden breast star with swords. This is a fine example of the 1918 produced low quality Glaser & Sohn star body with a high quality Scharffenberg center and swords. The order of Albert has a very strong affiliation to "LEGO". I will try to post the early verison later.[attachmentid=34118]I am sure that the specialists already saw that the inner wreath on the medaillon center is missing. Not uncommon during the last war years. Edited April 10, 2006 by medalnet
medalnet Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 ...and of course the reverse, showing the typical Glaser & Sohn design:[attachmentid=34119]
medalnet Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 ...and a nice example of a commander or grand cross (those are equal in size) in gold with silver gilt swords. The ring is actaully replaced, but....:[attachmentid=34122][attachmentid=34123]The crown of rue on the coat of arms is seperate to the coat of arms themselfs!
medalnet Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Here now the early issue version of the golden star with swords. please pay special attention to the double wreath on the center medaillon. this one of course is made by Scharffenberg:[attachmentid=34126]Sorry for the picture quality, but this is from my old photograph archive.
medalnet Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Quite rare as well is this Grand Cross star with swords made by Roesner:[attachmentid=34127]
Tom Y Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 My humble contribution from the other end of the spectrum. A pre-1910 example with separate medallions.
Stogieman Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Interesting to see that reverse Tom...... about the third that style of pin/hinge/prong....... interesting and unusual. I suspect Godet.
VtwinVince Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Spectacular pieces, Andreas, einfach Atemberaubend.
Stogieman Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 From the former stogieman collection, now residing in Germany:
Stogieman Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 And just because......... some interesting variations on the 2.Klasse Verleihungsetui:
Stogieman Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 See how many Albrecht's Orden etuis you can spot! ;>)
Wild Card Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Gentlemen,In view of my efforts to avoid Saxony (a really slippery slope) I?m afraid that this is about the best I can do.Best wishes,Wild Card
Wild Card Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Gentlemen,As minis go, there are some especially fine examples when it comes to this order. Here is one; but there are better ones out there.Best wishes,Wild Card
Stogieman Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Gee whiz WildCard! If you're going to have just one... that's the one to have! That makes exactly two I've seen. Ever. Andreas had the other one in a mounted group that was shown in the SOS report thread.
Claudio Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Wow! beautiful stuff!!!Here's Saxon bar with 2 AOs...
Claudio Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Here's his story...Medal Bar of Kurt OertmannBorn: 9 January, 1883 in Wurzen, SaxonyServed his entire career with Saxon Infantry regiment 102, joined ca. 1903Patent, Leutnant: 18 August, 1903Ca. 1910: Received Bavarian Military Merit Order, Fourth Class, Peacetime ribbon, while on detached service as Cadet Instructor with the Royal Saxon Corps of CadetsPatent, Oberleutnant: 9 August, 1912Serving as Adjutant I Korps, Infantry Regiment 102 in 1914Albert Order, Knight?s Cross, Second Class w. Swords: 31 October, 1914Patent, Hauptmann: 28 November, 1914Bavarian Military Merit Order, Fourth Class w. Swords: 5 February, 1916Albert Order, Knight?s Cross, First Class w. Swords: 20 May, 1916Albert Order, Crown to The Knight?s Cross, First Class w. Swords: 24 August, 1917Military Order of Saint Henry, Knight?s Cross: 7 May, 1918Serving as Hauptmann/Commanding II Korps, Infantry Regiment 102St. Henry Citation: Oertmann has distinguished himself again at the Battle of Armentieres, where the IR 102 was attached to the 32nd Infantry Division (9.4.1918). Without caring for his own safety, he lead his battalion several times in assaults on the enemy lines. His leadership and courage had great influence on the spirit of his men.Demobilized from the Imperial Army ca. 1920Listed in 1939 as Commander, Wehrmeldeamt Bitterfeld, Saxony, with the rank of Major z.D., seniority date of 1 June, 1932...and here a close-up of the AO...Enjoy!Claudio
Stogieman Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Fabulous Claudio, nice to see a familiar face!!
medalnet Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 (edited) This is indeed fun with the Albert Order. One of the interesting things is that this order is one of the few ones where multiple classes of the same order could be worn simultaniously:[attachmentid=34167]no name unfortunately. Maybe somebody can help....? Edited April 11, 2006 by medalnet
medalnet Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 Most Albert order cases have labels on their bottoms, indicating the manufacturer of the case, order and ribbon:[attachmentid=34168]
medalnet Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 ...above labels where glued to this case:[attachmentid=34171]
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