misiu Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 Does someone has a Mannerheim cross first class, unnumbered or numbered one I do not care. Must have hallmarks. cheers Dete
utopis Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 Considering that this award was only awarded 2 times, one of them to Mannerheim himself, I doubt there even are any in private collections. About two year ago a Swedish auction house offered a cased near mint 2nd class for sale. The asking price was about €30,000 however I don't recall what the result was.
Tursas Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 Yes, only two such crosses have been awarded, the first one to Marshal Mannerheim himself and the second one to Finnish Chief of the General Staff, General Erik Heinrichs. Neither one is for sale, and as far as I know, they are the only 1st class crosses ever made. There's also an extra challenge for collectors not living in Finland trying to acquire a Mannerheim Cross. The Finnish law considers them as objects of special historical value, and if you are planning to take such a cross outside the country legally, you would need a permit from the government. I imagine getting one would be a challenge.
JohanH Posted February 27, 2019 Posted February 27, 2019 According to my book there were eight crosses made. Five numbered and three unnumbered. They are probably in museums all of them...
misiu Posted March 15, 2019 Author Posted March 15, 2019 Finally got one, no number, but hallmarked with Helsinki and Tillander.
paul wood Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 On 12/02/2019 at 19:14, Tursas said: Yes, only two such crosses have been awarded, the first one to Marshal Mannerheim himself and the second one to Finnish Chief of the General Staff, General Erik Heinrichs. Neither one is for sale, and as far as I know, they are the only 1st class crosses ever made. There's also an extra challenge for collectors not living in Finland trying to acquire a Mannerheim Cross. The Finnish law considers them as objects of special historical value, and if you are planning to take such a cross outside the country legally, you would need a permit from the government. I imagine getting one would be a challenge. I remember may years,ago Pajari's with 2nd award and all the stuff that went with it. The Finnish government soon put a stop to that. Paul
JohanH Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 On 15/03/2019 at 14:58, misiu said: Finally got one, no number, but hallmarked with Helsinki and Tillander. I would love to see some pictures of your cross and it´s hallmarks.
misiu Posted March 18, 2019 Author Posted March 18, 2019 Thx for interest. Unfortunately no pics except a close-up of the hallmarks could be provided.
Tursas Posted March 21, 2019 Posted March 21, 2019 I'm also curious to see what exactly you have acquired, because I have never heard of a Mannerheim Cross 1st class being sold anywhere. That makes the authenticity of such a piece highly doubtful, in my humble opinion. I remember the last time a 2nd class cross (which are much more common than the 1st class) was sold at an auction. It was reported in newspapers, so it really is a rare event. But then the Mannerheim Cross itself is something special in Finland. The cross and its knights symbolize the struggle for independence of a whole nation.
misiu Posted March 21, 2019 Author Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Yeah, here is one picture, altogether 3 hallmarks. Edited March 21, 2019 by misiu
Gordon Craig Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 misiu, I do not see any picture. Regards, Gordon
misiu Posted March 23, 2019 Author Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) Here again the pic, cheers Edited March 23, 2019 by misiu
Claudius Posted March 27, 2019 Posted March 27, 2019 On 26/03/2019 at 14:26, misiu said: Yeah, I took it out. It was 1 day online. Well that's a shame. I came to this thread late and missed the show. Any chance for a curtain call?
christerd Posted May 18, 2019 Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) I saw a Mannerheim Cross for sale from Auono Kuiri at Bukowskis. a 2nd class went for 25 000 Euro ? Do not remember when 2011 The 2nd class awarded to Oiva Rönkä was out for 40 000 Euro ( but i couldn´t be exported out of Finland) And Tiainen says that 220 Mannerheim Crosses 2nd class where made against 8 1st class I think a genuine Mannerheim Cross 1st class should reach about 100 000 Euro probably ? Would love to see pictures of the 1 st class mentioned in this thread Does anyone know how many are known in Finnish Museums ? Christer Edited May 18, 2019 by christerd
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