drspeck Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) Dear Gentlemen, I received this little bar recently. Ribbons 3 and 2 look to be straightforward; a Johanniter order at 3rd place and what looks to be a Prussian general honor decoration with crown... But what's that on the 1st position? Best regards. Peter Edited May 31, 2019 by drspeck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentius Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Dear Peter, in the first place should be either a Red Eagle Order or a Crownorder on white-black ribbon with swords. Kind regards, Laurentius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drspeck Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 17 hours ago, laurentius said: Dear Peter, in the first place should be either a Red Eagle Order or a Crownorder on white-black ribbon with swords. Kind regards, Laurentius I didn't know that, thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utgardloki Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) There a LOT of different versions of the red eagle order and crown order (fantastic for every collector). I know many illustrations, but are there any with ALL versions on it? Edited June 1, 2019 by Utgardloki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Krause Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 The bar makes no sense at all. I would consider it as ... phantasy piece. A General Honor decoration with crown does not go along with a Johanniter. General Honor dec - NCO-type, Johanniter - at least Captain. nonono... So it must be a Red Eagle Grand Cross. But there was no holder of a Red Eagle GK with crown who had previously another Prussian Order with swords on white ribbon, and a Johanniter. My 2 cent, I would advice any collector of medal bars, mini chains and ribbon bars to invest some money in sources like ranklists and court and state handbooks. That plain necessary to learn what combos are likely, possible, common, or - like this - fraud. Greetings Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drspeck Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 On 27/06/2019 at 09:44, Daniel Krause said: The bar makes no sense at all. I would consider it as ... phantasy piece. A General Honor decoration with crown does not go along with a Johanniter. General Honor dec - NCO-type, Johanniter - at least Captain. nonono... So it must be a Red Eagle Grand Cross. But there was no holder of a Red Eagle GK with crown who had previously another Prussian Order with swords on white ribbon, and a Johanniter. My 2 cent, I would advice any collector of medal bars, mini chains and ribbon bars to invest some money in sources like ranklists and court and state handbooks. That plain necessary to learn what combos are likely, possible, common, or - like this - fraud. Greetings Daniel Hi Daniel. Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated. I will label this item as a reproduction. Thanks. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixhs Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I know where it came from. It is a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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