freiherr Posted June 28, 2020 Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) Can anyone identify what he was wearing second from right between the Egyptian Campaign Medal and the Khedive's Star? It must be one of his favorites as he seems to carrying it all the time - just like the Duke of Cambridge with his French and Sardinian Crimean medals. Thanks Elwyn Edited June 28, 2020 by freiherr
QSAMIKE Posted June 28, 2020 Posted June 28, 2020 Take a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_titles_and_honours_of_Prince_Arthur,_Duke_of_Connaught_and_Strathearn#Orders,_decorations_and_medals Mike
freiherr Posted June 29, 2020 Author Posted June 29, 2020 Thanks. I know all of those. This one is not known to the link or to me. All pictures post 1882 as it was post Egypt obviously and the Duke was also awarded Prussian PLM in 1882. Cheers
Alex K Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) Depends when the photo was taken, but appears strongly to be the Baden war cross for volunteers 1914-16, a short time before king George v renounced his German name from saxe-coburg-gotha to Windsor and made all British royalty do the same, similarly with the plm. Until then many of the British royal family were liberally festooned with German royal family orders (sort of keeping it in the family), a prudent move as kaiser wilhelm his cousin had started bombing Britain with his new heavy bomber, unfortunately also named the "Gotha" regards Edited June 29, 2020 by Alex K
Daniel Krause Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 Nice pics!! Thats the Hessen military merit cross. Baden 1914?? Sorry. No. Best, Daniel
freiherr Posted June 29, 2020 Author Posted June 29, 2020 Hahaha, Daniel always gets it right! Took me a whole day before I found this marble bust of Connaught. It's the Hesse MVK indeed! His oldest sister Vicky was of course Kaiserin to Friedrich III. And father-in-law Friedrich Karl was Chef to Husaren Rgt Nr 3 and Connaught was à la suite. However, second sister Alice was Großherzogin of Hesse. So he got it from Ludwig IV. Supposed to be given to Franco Prussian war veterans but I guess good to be a VIP! In this case Vanity Fair even got the colours of the ribbon somewhat correct! Cheers
freiherr Posted June 30, 2020 Author Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) This is a reasonable depiction. The breast star of the Order of the Garter, the Order of the Star of India, the St Michael and St George breast star, and on the spange: R-L Ernestine House Order, Oldenburg Cross and the Greek Redeemer are all within reason. I can't figure for the life of me what is the next to the Redeemer on the spange, or the last one. The "continental old style" ribbon and what looks like a crown at the top of the round medal makes this unlikely to be a British medal. Cheers Edited June 30, 2020 by freiherr
laurentius Posted June 30, 2020 Posted June 30, 2020 9 hours ago, freiherr said: Oldenburg Cross It's a Hessian Order of Phillip the Magnanimous
Lukasz Gaszewski Posted July 3, 2020 Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) On 30/06/2020 at 04:19, freiherr said: I can't figure for the life of me what is the next to the Redeemer on the spange, or the last one. The "continental old style" ribbon and what looks like a crown at the top of the round medal makes this unlikely to be a British medal. It looks like either the Russian Order of St. Andrew (albeit it is seldom seen worn like that) or Russian Order of the White Eagle (more likely to be worn in that manner). Considering the Duke's status, I would vote for the first. I cannot figure out either, what the silver medal could be. Edited July 3, 2020 by Lukasz Gaszewski
Marcon1 Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 List of titles and honours of Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigationJump to search Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn This is a list of the titles and honours held by Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn, a senior officer of the British Army, Governor General of Canada, and member of the British Royal Family as third son of Queen Victoria. Contents 1Name 2Titles, styles and honours 2.1Titles and styles 2.2Orders, decorations and medals 2.3British 2.4Foreign 3Military 3.1Ranks 3.2Honorary appointments 3.2.1Personal Aide-de-Camp 3.2.2Colonel of the Regiment 3.2.3Honorary Colonel 3.2.4Colonel-in-Chief 3.2.5Foreign military appointments 4Civil 4.1Privy Counsellor 4.2Others 5References Name[edit] On 22 June 1850 Prince Arthur was baptised in the Chapel at Buckingham Palace with the Christian names Arthur William Patrick Albert.[1] As a member of the Royal Family, he had no surname[2] until 17 July 1917, when a Royal Proclamation of King George V declared that all British descendants in the male line of Queen Victoria would bear the name of Windsor.[3] Titles, styles and honours[edit] Titles and styles[edit] 1 May 1850 – 24 May 1874: His Royal Highness The Prince Arthur 24 May 1874 – 16 January 1942: His Royal Highness The Duke of Connaught and Strathearn As a son of the sovereign, Arthur had the title of Prince and the style of Royal Highness from birth. The princely title had been used for sons of the sovereign since Tudor times[4] and was formalised by letters patent of 30 November 1917,[5] while the style of Royal Highness had been used since the Restoration[4] and was confirmed by letters patent of 3 February 1864.[6] Through his father, Prince Albert, he also bore the titles Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and Duke of Saxony until 17 July 1917, when King George V discontinued the use of German titles.[3] On 24 May 1874, Prince Arthur was created Duke of Connaught and Strathearn and Earl of Sussex,[7] in the Peerage of the United Kingdom.[8] As a duke of the Blood Royal, he had the formal style of Most High, Most Mighty, and Illustrious Prince Arthur William Patrick Albert, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn and Earl of Sussex.[9] Orders, decorations and medals[edit] (ribbon bar, as it would look today; British decorations only) British[edit] KG: Royal Knight of the Garter, 31 May 1867[10] KT: Extra Knight of the Thistle, 24 May 1869[11] KP: Knight of St. Patrick, 30 March 1869[12] GCMG: Knight Grand Cross of St Michael and St George, 16 April 1870[13] GCSI: Extra Knight Grand Commander of the Star of India, 1 January 1877[14] CB: Companion of the Bath (military), 17 November 1882 – 7 July 1890[15] KCB: Knight Commander of the Bath (military), 8 July 1890 – 20 May 1898[16] GCB: Knight Grand Cross of the Bath (military), 21 May 1898 – 25 February 1901[17] Great Master of the Order of the Bath, 26 February 1901 – 1942[18] GCIE: Extra Knight Grand Commander of the Indian Empire, 21 June 1887[19] GCVO: Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order, 6 May 1896[20] KStJ: Knight of Justice of St John, 1896 – 11 June 1926[21] GCStJ: Bailiff Grand Cross of St John, 12 June 1926[22] Grand Prior of the Order of St John, 23 June 1910 – 1939[23][24] Royal Victorian Chain, 11 August 1902[25] GBE: Knight Grand Cross of the British Empire, 4 June 1917[26] The Duke was Bailiff of Egle from 1894[27] Campaign medals Canadian General Service Medal with clasp for Fenian Raid 1870[25] Egypt Medal with clasp for Battle of Tel el-Kebir 1882[25] British War Medal, 26 July 1919 Victory Medal, 1 September 1919 Long service medals Volunteer Officers' Decoration (VD), 27 May 1892[25] Territorial Decoration (TD), 19 June 1934[25] Foreign[edit] Variant of the arms of Prince Arthur as knight of the Spanish branch of the Golden Fleece and the Order of Charles III Anhalt: Grand Cross of Albert the Bear, 1890[28] Austria-Hungary: Grand Cross of St Stephen, 1873[25][29] Baden: Knight of the House Order of Fidelity, 7 September 1906[25] Bavaria: Knight of St. Hubert[30] Belgium: Grand Cordon of the Royal Order of Leopold(military), 1873[25] Brunswick: Grand Cross of Henry the Lion, 1890[31] Denmark: Knight of the Elephant, 2 August 1873[25][32] Ernestine duchies: Grand Cross of the Saxe-Ernestine House Order, 1868[33] Ethiopia: Grand Cross of the Star of Ethiopia, 20 August 1917[25] France: Grand Cross of the Legion of Honour, 20 December 1898[34] Greece: Grand Cross of the Redeemer, 5 May 1879[25] Hesse and by Rhine:[35] Grand Cross of the Ludwig Order, 4 February 1872 Grand Cross of Philip the Magnanimous, 18 February 1878 Italy:[25] Knight of the Annunziata, 1898 Grand Cross of Saints Maurice and Lazarus, 1898 Grand Cross of the Military Order of Savoy, 20 August 1917 Japan: Grand Cordon of the Order of the Chrysanthemum, 1 July 1890[25] Mecklenburg: Grand Cross of the Wendish Crown, with Crown in Ore, 27 July 1879[36] Monaco: Grand Cross of St. Charles, 20 August 1917[25] Montenegro: Grand Cross of the Order of Prince Danilo I, 26 March 1897[25][37] Netherlands: Grand Cross of the Netherlands Lion, 23 August 1878[25] Norway: Grand Cross of St. Olav, with Collar, 13 November 1906[25] Ottoman Empire:[25] Order of Osmanieh, 1st Class in Diamonds, 17 July 1867 Order of the Medjidie, 2nd Class, November 1882[38] Tunisia: Grand Cordon of the Order of Glory, 1 June 1865 Portugal: Grand Cross of the Tower and Sword, 3 April 1879[39] Prussia:[25] Knight of the Black Eagle, 1872 Grand Cross of the Red Eagle, 1873 Pour le Mérite, 17 November 1882[40] Romania: Grand Cross of the Crown of Romania, 20 August 1917[25] Spain:[25] Grand Cross of the Order of Charles III, with Collar, 16 April 1876 Grand Cross of Military Merit, November 1882 Knight of the Golden Fleece, 15 May 1902 (during his attendance of the enthronement ceremonies for King Alfonso XIII)[41] Sweden:[25] Knight of the Seraphim, 18 July 1873[42] Commander Grand Cross of the Sword, 15 December 1902 Knight of the Order of Charles XIII, 1905[43] Military[edit] Ranks[edit] The Duke of Connaught in Field Marshal's uniform, 1915 1866: Cadet, RMA Woolwich[25] 19 June 1868: Lieutenant, Royal Engineers[44] 2 November 1868: Lieutenant, Royal Regiment of Artillery[45] 3 August 1869: Lieutenant, Rifle Brigade[46] 1 May 1871: Captain, Rifle Brigade[47] 14 April 1874: Captain, 7th Hussars[48] 7 August 1875: Major, 7th Hussars[49] 27 September 1876: Lieutenant-Colonel, Rifle Brigade[50] 29 May 1880: Brevet Colonel, British Army[51] 29 May 1880: Major-General, British Army[51] 14 December 1886: Lieutenant-General, British Army (local rank while commanding the troops in Bombay)[52] 1 April 1889: Lieutenant-General, British Army (supernumerary)[53] 1 April 1893: General, British Army (supernumerary)[54] 26 June 1902: Field Marshal, British Army[55] 18 October 1920: Honorary Captain, Royal Naval Reserve[25] Honorary appointments[edit] Personal Aide-de-Camp[edit] 26 May 1876: to Queen Victoria[25] 1901: to King Edward VII 3 June 1910: to King George V[56] 1936: to Edward VIII[57] Colonel of the Regiment[edit] The Duke of Connaught as Colonel of the Scots Guards, 1890 24 June 1883: Scots Guards[58] (until 1 May 1904)[59] 2 September 1902: Army Service Corps[60] 1 May 1904: Grenadier Guards[59] 13 October 1911 – 11 November 1916: Colonel of the Governor General's Horse Guards 13 October 1911 – 11 November 1916: Colonel of the Governor General's Foot Guards 13 October 1911 – 11 November 1916: Colonel of the Canadian Grenadier Guards Honorary Colonel[edit] 30 June 1871: 28th Middlesex Rifle Volunteer Corps[61] 26 April 1873: Royal East Kent Yeomanry[62] (until 16 January 1878)[63] 24 July 1875: Hampshire and Isle of Wight Artillery[64] 1 September 1883: 7th Bengal Native Infantry[65] (until 13 May 1904)[66] 1 September 1883: 29th Bombay Native Infantry (2nd Biluch Regiment)[65] (until 13 May 1904)[67] 27 February 1886: Royal East Kent Yeomanry[68] 12 February 1896: 3rd and 4th Battalions, Highland Light Infantry[69] 1 May 1900: The British Columbia Regiment (Duke of Connaught's Own) 19 March 1904: South of Ireland Imperial Yeomanry[70] 6th Regiment, Duke of Connaught's Own Rifles Colonel-in-Chief[edit] 29 May 1880: Rifle Brigade[51] 22 June 1897: 6th Dragoons[71] 4 September 1901: Highland Light Infantry[72] 13 May 1904: 13th Duke of Connaught's Lancers (Watson's Horse)[66] 13 May 1904: 31st Duke of Connaught's Own Lancers[66] 13 May 1904: 7th (Duke of Connaught's Own) Rajputs[66] 13 May 1904: 129th Duke of Connaught's Own Baluchis[66] 1929: The Royal Canadian Regiment Foreign military appointments[edit] 1890s: Colonel à la suite 27th (Kiev) Regiment of Dragoons, Russian Army[25] June 1905: Honorary General, Swedish Army[25] 12 September 1906: Field Marshal, Prussian Army[25] 1908: Honorary Lieutenant-Colonel, 9th (Arapiles) Battalion of Light Infantry, Spanish Army[25] 24 May 1910: Honorary Admiral, Royal Danish Navy[25] Civil[edit] Privy Counsellor[edit] Member of the Privy Council of the United Kingdom, 16 May 1871[73] Member of the Privy Council of Ireland, 10 January 1900[74] Others[edit] Ranger of Epping Forest, 1879[75] Bencher of Gray's Inn, 4 July 1881 Elder Brother of the Corporation of Trinity House, 1898;[75] Master, 1910–1942[8] High Steward of Wokingham[8]
Alex K Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) On 30/06/2020 at 03:19, freiherr said: This is a reasonable depiction. The breast star of the Order of the Garter, the Order of the Star of India, the St Michael and St George breast star, and on the spange: R-L Ernestine House Order, Oldenburg Cross and the Greek Redeemer are all within reason. I can't figure for the life of me what is the next to the Redeemer on the spange, or the last one. The "continental old style" ribbon and what looks like a crown at the top of the round medal makes this unlikely to be a British medal. Cheers The ribbon at least on the silver medal matches the Karl-Eduard wedding medal maybe the "crown" bit is artistic licence Edited July 4, 2020 by Alex K
Lukasz Gaszewski Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 I agree. Although the sequence of the decorations is a bit odd.
Alex K Posted July 4, 2020 Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Lukasz Gaszewski said: I agree. Although the sequence of the decorations is a bit odd. Royal prerogative maybe?" i'll wear what I want the way I want to" there could be an alternative in that both he and karl-eduard were saxe-coburg-gothas, as a family decoration, it took precedence, don't know Edited July 4, 2020 by Alex K
freiherr Posted July 9, 2020 Author Posted July 9, 2020 Thanks. I forgot it was mentioned here. The little crown did throw me off. A porcelain work from Queen Victoria's favorite artisan seems to support that.
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