George V: Medals and decorations

[filfoster]

OK, I suppose this will be 'duck soup' for our British members.  What Orders, specifically neck decorations/collars, breast stars and medals does George V wear on his Fleet Admiral and Field Marshal rigs?

I'm guessing the neck gongs are the Military Bath GC and the collar is the Victorian Order, but who can see well enough to know for sure?

The breast stars here are the Garter and the Military Bath GC; On his Fleet Admiral uniform he often wore the Star of India star and another breast star I can't make out.

The medal bar appears to have some very odd/rare things.

 

Edited August 26, 2020 by filfoster

[filfoster]

No takers? Really? Poor George V!

[Great Dane]

I would like to have a look, but that is a very tiny photo...

[JapanX]

 

[JapanX]

This photo was made somewere around April-May 1931.

August 1926.

[filfoster]

Thanks, Japan X. These are much better. I am confident that the collar is the GCVO but the upper neck order could be a Grand Commander of the Order of the Bath or a Guelphic Order.  I'd guess the former.

Medal bar?  I can guess a few. I see a St George/St Michael and Victorian Order, and perhaps a Star of India; Probably a Military Bath at the far left. AT this date, near the right, he'd have 'pip, squeak and Wilfred', the WW1 trio, wouldn't he?

Edited August 26, 2020 by filfoster

[Great Dane]

There's a OBE in there too.

Interesting that he had all the mentioned orders 'represented' on his breast bar, as I assume he was Grand Cross in all of them.

[JapanX]

1 minute ago, Great Dane said:

... I assume he was Grand Cross in all of them.

Naturally. 

This is his Star of India full size set (circa 1911).

[oamotme]

Gentlemen,

An attempt at identifying the first image medal bar:

1. Order of the Bath Military
2. Order of the Star of India
3. Order of St. Michael & St. George
4. Order of Indian Empire
5. Royal Victorian Order
6. Order of British Empire
7. Imperial Service Order
8. 1914-15 Star
9. Great War Medal
10. Great War Victory Medal
11. 1887 Jubilee Medal + 1897 Clasp
12. 1902 Coronation

Kind regards,

Owain

 

[filfoster]

oamotme: That's impressive!  I can't make them all out but that's the answer for now. Thank you. I will have to research that Imperial Service Order. Haven't seen one and want to know more about it. I'll get me Spinks out.

[P.F.]

Here is a slightly clearer picture of his medal bar.

[filfoster]

P.F., thanks for this picture. This seems to follow the medals suggested by Oamotme, no?

Edited August 27, 2020 by filfoster

[QSAMIKE]

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Edited August 27, 2020 by QSAMIKE

[P.F.]

23 hours ago, filfoster said:

P.F., thanks for this picture. This seems to follow the medals suggested by Oamotme, no?

Yes, I believe so. 

[oamotme]

P.F.,

Thanks for the clearer picture  - I think my ID's are correct. By the way the 'collar' is not a 'collar' rather it is the Royal Victorian Chain and I believe the neck badge is the Order of the Bath (Military Division) to accompany the lower breast star.

Regards,

Owain 

[filfoster]

1 hour ago, oamotme said:

P.F.,

Thanks for the clearer picture  - I think my ID's are correct. By the way the 'collar' is not a 'collar' rather it is the Royal Victorian Chain and I believe the neck badge is the Order of the Bath (Military Division) to accompany the lower breast star.

Regards,

Owain 

Thanks, that seems the proper identifications.

[filfoster]

My personal thanks to all who contributed. I think this has been 'nailed down'.

[JapanX]

21 hours ago, oamotme said:

 By the way the 'collar' is not a 'collar' rather it is the Royal Victorian Chain ...

George V's Royal Victorian Chain  

He got it on August 9, 1902.

Source.

[filfoster]

Didn't his own son, the future George V also receive the chain?

[JapanX]

Royal Victorian Order doesn`t have chain/collar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Victorian_Order

Royal Victorian Chain is a separate award https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Victorian_Chain

[filfoster]

On a further link of recipients, I do see George V, awarded the chain by his father Edward VII.

[Ynsman]

I believe the Bath neck badge is that of the Great Master of the order, distinguished by having a crown above the badge, and now worn by Prince Charles, see

(there wrongly captioned Grand Master's badge)

 

Edited August 30, 2020 by Ynsman
(better link)

[filfoster]

Yes. So, altogether, George V is wearing some pretty unique stuff, befitting his status as monarch and also making it pretty tough to recreate, at a reasonable cost, for a display.

Edited September 1, 2020 by filfoster

[oamotme]

I wonder how his Great War Medals are named?

'H.M. King George V'?

Owain

[filfoster]

...or HRM The Prince of Wales, depending when he got them?  Would they be named at all?