Prussian Order of the Crown

[GODISHIGH]

I have never owned one of these and these are the only pictures I have at the moment.  What can yall tell me about this one?

Thanks

John

[saschaw]

This is a third class cross of the second type which was introduced in ca. 1862/63 and was abolished in 1869. From the pictures, it looks fine to me.

 

There were only two makers officially involved making these in the 1860s, from what I have heard, but I couldn't attribute it to the one or the other with only these pictures.

Edited August 27, 2021 by saschaw

[VtwinVince]

Sascha is correct, this is a pretty scarce 'small crown' version of the order in what looks to be pristine condition.

[ccj]

Nice looking, I like the simplicity of the Order of the Crown

[GODISHIGH]

Thanks for your help 

John 

[GODISHIGH]

The seller mentions its marked "Wilh" between the arms and also states it's gold.  

Thanks

John 

[saschaw]

 

4 hours ago, GODISHIGH said:

The seller mentions its marked "Wilh" between the arms and also states it's gold. 

All of these are gold, if they're authentic and officially produced. Prussia didn't change to gilt silver until almost 50 years after this type was obsolete. I'd love to see a picture of the mark! From what I have seen, many of these are unmarked... and "Wilh" cannot be what it reads. Maybe "AW"? Another common maker for such crosses could be "WILM", but not for the early type crosses, as far as I know.

 

 

17 hours ago, VtwinVince said:

(...) in what looks to be pristine condition.

With that flaw on the upper cross arm, "pristine" would not be my choice of words.

 

[VtwinVince]

D'oh, another reason to get new glasses.

[Graf]

AS far i am concern,

Usually, "WILM" mark was on  the bottom of lower arm -6 o'clock  ,not in between the arms

In such cases if the price is very high you might request more information

[Graf]

Hi Simius Rex,

 

If your information is 100% correct it means It is not only eMedals who claims that. i have seen in few Dealers Sites

I am not collector of German Orders and if you are, as it looks like, enthusiastic German Orders collectors I will retreat my comments and cordially will accept your opiinin..till proven otherwise by other members

 

Regards

[GODISHIGH]

Thanks for all yall's help

John

[Graf]

Hi GGODISHIGH,

I hope you made your mind regarding the Order

 

To my friends from USA Take it easy. Do not start a war I accept your comments

Those Forums are for constructive . exchange of opinion Cheers

[Graf]

Point taken

 

Double checked

 

The WILM had the mark on the Cylinder. Confused with Wagner who had the imark on the lower Arm

 

Visit woeschler-orden.de, updated each 1st and 15th a month!

 

Cheers

[davesmedals]

I have one of these crosses in a British group of medals and mine is stamped ‘Wilh’ Between the arm's.

Edited April 21 by davesmedals

[bolewts58]

32 minutes ago, davesmedals said:

I have one of these crosses in a British group of medals and mine is stamped ‘Wilh’ Between the arm's.

 

It's WILM. There was no maker named 'Wilh'.

 

[davesmedals]

Your correct sorry