Unidentified Uniform

[FALvonKyffhausen]

Hello guys,

 

Can someone tell me something about this soldier, for example rank, branch of service or origin (Prussian, Bavarian etc..)?

[Graf]

It is difficult to say Not many details can be seen on the photo

 

Regards

[91-old-inf-reg]

It’s clearly a Prussian soldier, he’s either a Musketeer in parade uniform or a Leutnant but I doubt that.

 

but if you could show the location where the photograph was taken at the bottom, usually that can help narrow down what regiment he belonged to. 

[GreyC]

HI,

it´s a normal soldier from a Linien-Artillerie Regiment in a Parade-Outfit.

GreyC

[The Prussian]

Hello!

It´s not so difficult...

The photo-studio (Atelier Max Seyffarth) is from Saarbrücken.
Parts of Feldartillerie-Regiment v. Holtzendorff Nr.8 was in that garrison.

Two Abteilungen (Detachments) were in Saarlouis and the mounted detachment was in Saarbrücken.

He wears a black plume, which was worn only by a couple of Field-Artillery units, but by all mounted detachments and by all soldiers of the regimental staff!

The three batteries of the mounted detachment were in Saarbrücken since April 1, 1898.

According to the white Troddel (bayonet-, or in this case sword-knot) for mounted troops and the absence of rank insignia, here we have a gunner of:

1st battery/mounted Detachment of Field-Artillery-Regiment N°8 in Saarbrücken since 1898 in parade-dress.

 

Sword-knots of the mounted batteries:

 

Location 1914:

Red circle: Saarlouis with I. and II. Detachement and their staffs.

Yellow circle: Saarbrücken with regimental staff and mounted Detachment (R = reitend = mounted)

 

 

Order of the transfer of the detachment:

War Ministry.  Berlin, March 3, 1898

N°53
Transfer of the mounted detachment Field Artillery Regiment von Holtzendorff (1st Rhenish) No.8
In execution of the Most High Cabinet Order of July 28, 1890 - Army Ordinance Gazette page 154 regarding 166 - the transfer of the above-mentioned detachment from Saarlouis to Saarbrücken will take place on April 1, 1898.

N° 860/2.98. A.1.
by order of, v. der Boeck

(Major-General v.der Boeck was member of the National-Defence-Commission and director of the General War Department)

Edited November 5, 2022 by The Prussian

[FALvonKyffhausen]

Wow! Thank u very much, I cant Imagine how much work That was! Am I right, That u mean he was a Gunner ( Kannonier) from the Field Art Reg von Holtzendorff and he was Part of the First Batterie cus of the White sword knot? Thanks Again, I have also an other Person where I am a bit Lost. 
 

Kind Regards 

 

FAL v. K

[FALvonKyffhausen]

Or Could it be possible that he was Part of the 3. Garde- Regiment zu Fuß. Because I habe found a Small Book abt it Besides the Photo. 
 

This one:  https://www.kpemig.de/Das-3-Garde-Regiment-zu-Fuss-1860-1900-57-Seiten-etwas-unter-DIN-A5-leichte-Verschmutzung

 

 

Kind Regards!

[The Prussian]

Hello!

No, that´s not possible. Garde hat those "Garde-Litzen" around the neck and on the cuffs.

Your photo shows a gunner of:

1st battery/mounted Detachment of Field-Artillery-Regiment "v. Holtzendorff"  N°8 in Saarbrücken since 1898 in parade-dress.

Here is an old photo of 3rd GRzF:

 

Edited February 4, 2023 by The Prussian

[FALvonKyffhausen]

Thank you a lot. I got it now! Do u know something abt the other soldier I posted currently, the picture is from Strassburg and he's wearing smith I just know from the modern Bundeswehr and there it is called Schützenschnur.

Thank you very much again!

 

Kind Regards!