LuckySlevin Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Hi Gentlemen, Have you ever seen this kind of swords on the Order of the Crown? I know that during the WWI it was probably common to reuse peace-time decoration and to adapt them for war merit but I have never seen this "unprofessional" swords attachment. Thank you in advance for your opinions. Best, Lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Yes very unusual attachment. Such work was explained that it was needed urgently and the result was like that I have seen such work not only on Rumanian Orders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveBobby Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 It seems that there are orders with similar shapes appearing in magazines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Hi Steve, I think the question is for the badly attached swords on the second order from the left, if I am not wrong Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveBobby Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Hi Graf！ Yes, I checked the image again. Perhaps this could be some kind of manufacturer error, or a trace of someone artificially damaging it later. Sincerely Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, steveBobby said: Hi Graf！ Yes, I checked the image again. Perhaps this could be some kind of manufacturer error, or a trace of someone artificially damaging it later. Sincerely Steve More likely the first one, however it could be later addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckySlevin Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 Hi, Thank you both for your comments. I would like to hope that the way the swords are added is due to the necessity to convert a peacetime to a military time. Adding few more photos: Also below is the full bar, to which I don't have questions: @Graf, if by any case you have any examples of orders with similar (not the most professional) swords addition that would be very helpful. Thank you, Lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Welcome I have to go through my files and if I find anything I will list it Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Older regulations mentioned that wartime decorations should be in front of peacetime ones, hence the Order of the Crown with swords should have been in front of the military Order of the Star. Also, many WWI awards with swords were on the Military Virtue ribbon. However there are bars where these rules was not respected, including some at the National Military Museum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Hi Carol I Thank you for the information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveBobby Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I'm not quite sure how these things happened in the photo. But This appears to be due to damage which resulted in the loss of one side of the sword decoration. On the other side, there is a crooked sword decoration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Looks like his Stanislaus lost an [upper left as viewed] eagle too! Appears his awards are attached to uniform using the so-called loop over cord method. Does anyone know this officer's history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, steveBobby said: I'm not quite sure how these things happened in the photo. But This appears to be due to damage which resulted in the loss of one side of the sword decoration. On the other side, there is a crooked sword decoration. nice pictures Yes those damages happen when the decorations are dropped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 On 22/07/2023 at 05:03, 922F said: Does anyone know this officer's history? His last name is Popa, which is a rather common name and hence difficult to stand out, unless the British, Serbian/Yugoslavian and Russian awards will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex K Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) Just seen thi thread and getting back to original post if i may, i have this example wherectge swords appear to be on tge reverse side of the medal, not tge obverse as indicated on other examples posted, also they appear to he well fitted as if they were integral, any comments welcome Edited August 13, 2023 by Alex K Photo change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, Alex K said: Just seen thi thread and getting back to original post if i may, i have this example wherectge swords appear to be on tge reverse side of the medal, not tge obverse as indicated on other examples posted, also they appear to he well fitted as if they were integral, any comments welcome In this old thread there is a photo of a medal bar with a similar knight's cross, albeit on Military Virtue ribbon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveBobby Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) I think this is due to the manufacturers, different manufacturers have their own ideas about where to place the sword. Such as Made by french manufacturer “Lemaitre” ，The swords are placed in the back position. Sincerely Steve in the back position Edited August 14, 2023 by steveBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Some interesting info here: - http://www.omsa.org/files/jomsa_arch/Splits/2008/43278_JOMSA_Vol59_1_04.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex K Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Thankyou for the additional info gentlemen, at least i know mine isnt unique! Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 6 hours ago, steveBobby said: I think this is due to the manufacturers, different manufacturers have their own ideas about where to place the sword. Such as Made by french manufacturer “Lemaitre” ，The swords are placed in the back position. Sincerely Steve in the back position Nice Photo Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Ostapenko Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 6 hours ago, graham said: Some interesting info here: - http://www.omsa.org/files/jomsa_arch/Splits/2008/43278_JOMSA_Vol59_1_04.pdf Thank you for link ! 🍷 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 12 hours ago, Igor Ostapenko said: Thank you for link ! 🍷 Very nice picture 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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