Stogieman Posted May 27 Author Posted May 27 And another fake Navy Badge from the never ending supply, $270
VtwinVince Posted June 5 Posted June 5 Looks like the handiwork of our friend the Schraegstich Faker is now turning up in elaborate fake groupings, like this one currently on German fleabay.
VtwinVince Posted June 8 Posted June 8 Quiz time: who can list everything wrong with this abomination currently on fleabay?
Stogieman Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 Well, too funny! Bogus engraving, bad beading, wrong pin, bad core, etc., etc., etc! The only thing worse is this fabulous, fake Grand Cross that could be yours for a mere $3750!! 😂
bolewts58 Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) For one thing, "VON UNRUHE"??? LOL... Whoever engraved this is having a joke. Unruhe means restlessness or agitation. There's no place in Germany called "Unruhe". Also, the "J" should be an "I" and isn't the "8" in 1870 called an "over under" and a clear indicator of a fake? I think the hinge block is wrong and too high off the back. Genuine barrel hinges are soldered flat to the back. The beading is wrong. The frame is likely from a reworked 1914. Anything else? Edited June 9 by bolewts58
Bernd_W Posted June 9 Posted June 9 32 minutes ago, bolewts58 said: For one thing, "VON UNRUHE"??? LOL... Whoever engraved this is having a joke. Unruhe means restlessness or agitation. There's no place in Germany called "Unruhe". "von" is the lowest Nobiliary particle. Example: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Wilhelm_von_Unruhe-Bomst
VtwinVince Posted June 9 Posted June 9 Good eyes people. Bernd, there is an old Prussian family by that name, sometimes spelled differently. In fact I think there was a high ranking Polish officer from the same family in the interwar period. But you're right, the engraving is so spurious on this thing as to be laughable.
Graf Posted June 11 Posted June 11 13 minutes ago, Stogieman said: Another fake “Godet” PLM, this one brought $786 I feel sorry for those buyers Many will keep those items believing that they are Original till the day they try to sell them
bolewts58 Posted June 11 Posted June 11 How stupid are these people? It's quite easy to find out what an original wartime piece sells for (probably north of 15,000 € in good condition).
Stogieman Posted June 11 Author Posted June 11 Same seller, another fake TWM, fake case and marked for Meybauer, sold for $645!
Stogieman Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 I suspect this to be a new copy case that’s been working their way into German eBay. Looks too new and sold for a Buy It Now price of 121-Euro
VtwinVince Posted June 13 Posted June 13 I agree, haven't seen that one faked before. The catch is off centre. A seller in England has been flogging all manner of Imperial fake cases the last couple of years. Remember when no one wanted cases and you could pick them up for cheap?
Stogieman Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 I do remember! Back in the day, cased or in the issue packet was my main criteria!
VtwinVince Posted June 13 Posted June 13 I have a WE Kriegskreuz, but no case. That's going to be a hard one to find.
Stogieman Posted June 15 Author Posted June 15 I couldn’t make my mind up on this one so I’m placing it in this thread. I welcome discussion and your thoughts. Precedence is clearly wrong but the individual pieces look ok in my eyes. Mounting looks okay too. I just don’t know. Thoughts? The lack of a long service award gives me pause.
spolei Posted June 15 Posted June 15 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Stogieman said: I couldn’t make my mind up on this one so I’m placing it in this thread. I welcome discussion and your thoughts. Precedence is clearly wrong but the individual pieces look ok in my eyes. Mounting looks okay too. I just don’t know. Thoughts? The lack of a long service award gives me pause. There is no service award on it. In fourth position is a Prussian Red Eagle Order. The bronze medal is Bavarian, Medal of the Order of St. Michael. The gold MVK should not have been worn if the next higher level, in this case the MVO, was awarded. The gold MVK is also not an awarded item.The MVK is on the war ribbon. However, with 7 exceptions, this class was awarded on the ribbon for war service. The Michael would also fit a military officer, but on the one hand a service award is missing, on the other hand a jubilee medal, because we are here in a high NCO rank, which then rose to officer. Edited June 15 by spolei
VtwinVince Posted June 15 Posted June 15 I looked at that one as well, and my 'Bauchgefuehl' tells me it's a Bastelarbeit.
Bernd_W Posted June 15 Posted June 15 The Bavarian ribbons look extreme new compared with the IC ribbon.
xxx Posted June 16 Posted June 16 the schrägstich faker? https://www.ebay.de/itm/315416296692?itmmeta=01J0GP6XAXE7VWKYHB64ESZJDC&hash=item497046bcf4:g:akwAAOSwJIxmX4uF&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4Ii9TY4VZKIrJUkZIMo%2FwW10rlCaMG1nEVcLUNBFt4FhaBK%2Bbb9CM9325VbF8U1V8xRwHA%2FIA6j9Ifai7bMCQKBuOCAqHjK342GoqKnktUJndwGGhvQ6SX9mCUJIPj6lQFBPBKYqx3sNPJieNeUoqX3uJT81a7ErXNvOiKadLXOD11VDMlsSLeV9SObPgEH21%2BAw%2BFGY4IMQGwuhIb3u1J%2FvmCMI5hvFFgtqqU5iFi%2Fq7Z8QMA8%2B8Eo%2BWr7AscULUMeRs%2FcAxWyEJkg8XKS7p%2Fw6rRR5DEsUdBKQmjSCaUfS|tkp%3ABk9SR8TVm5aEZA
Giannis S. Posted June 16 Posted June 16 8 minutes ago, xxx said: the schrägstich faker? at least he states that they are collectors / museum copies.
Bernd_W Posted June 16 Posted June 16 1 hour ago, Giannis S. said: at least he states that they are collectors / museum copies. Yes, very small in his conditions, not in the description. The bla bla in the conditions its just a juridical trick.
Stogieman Posted June 17 Author Posted June 17 Apparently Grand Crosses of 1870 has become a cottage industry! Here’s yet another, $685! I find this hilarious
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