Jacky Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 (edited) I have to say that the ribbon is most likely not original, yes old it is, but perhaps not original.Well done Kevin,The mark hadn't occured to me.I'm wondering too.Kind regards,Jackyp.s. these photo's looks far more beautifuller than the scan. Edited January 30, 2007 by Jacky
Dave Danner Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 Can somebody give me some info on award criteria please,The Silver Cross (Сребърен кръст) was the 6th Class (VI степен) of the Order. It came in two grades, with and without crown, and could be awarded with swords. It was awarded to master sergeants (фелдфебели), other NCOs (подофицери), enlisted soldiers (войници) and lower ranking civil servants (низшн чиновници) for meritorious deeds or service. Note: фелдфебел is literally "Feldwebel"; it translates from Bulgarian as master sergeant or sergeant major, but if anyone more familiar with the Bulgarian royal army rank structure has a better translation, it would be appreciated. I think the distinction between a фелдфебел and a подофицер (literally the same as Unteroffizier) might be the with/without Portepee distinction of German NCOs, but I'm not sure.
Yankee Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 The one on the far right is a Ducal Saxe-Ernestine House Order (Herzoglich Sachsen-Ernestinischer Hausorden). Given the Bulgarian monarch's background, it would likely be from the Duchy of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. Eric is right about the middle one though. It is the Order of Saint Louis (Ordine di San Luigi) from the Duchy of Parma. The Duchy ceased to exist as an independent state on Italian unification in 1859-60, but the order continues to this day as a house award of the House of Bourbon-Parma. .And why would a Bulgarian officer have an award of a state that ceased to exist before Bulgaria was founded? Because the wife of Prince (later Tsar) Ferdinand I was Princess Marie Louise of Bourbon-Parma, daughter of Roberto I, the last Duke of Parma. The wedding occurred in 1893, so the card probably dates from right after thatCzar Ferdinand created a wedding medal for the happy occasion which depicts couple on obverse & both crests on reverse.
Yankee Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 I forget to mention medal comes in several grades with & without crown. I've only seen one real gold one probably belonged to Ferdinand l or another monarch.
Kev in Deva Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 Hallo Dave, many thanks for the information on the Cross, Kevin in Deva
Jacky Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 Hi Dave,Thanks from me too.Althoug it's not mine anymore, I like the information too.Kind regards,Jacky
Yankee Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Hello GentlemenPicked this one up a while back, was always curious about this one. Ferdinand issued a few merit medals with his bust at different stages of his life. My question is does anyone know when this medal was issued?
Yankee Posted February 1, 2007 Posted February 1, 2007 Hallo Gents, just obtained this from Jacky in Holland, a nice salty piece.A Silver cross of the Bulgarian Order of St. Alexander. Can somebody give me some info on award criteria please,There appears to be a stamp / mark on the silver piece under the ball ribbon ring hanger (appears as a dark round spot in the picture).Kevin in Deva. Nice one KevinAn early SILVER one hallmarked Thanks for sharing Yankee
Carol I Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 Order of Saint Alexander 4th class with XI guess yours is a 5th class with crown and swords, not a 4th class. The 4th class was golden and had a rosette on the ribbon. The yellowish colour on your badge might just be patina.Here is a comparison between the 4th class and the 5th class of the Order of Saint Alexander
Jacky Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 Personally I think it's too golden to be patina, it might be a stripped down 4th class just because it looked so nice, without the rosette...Or it might have been reribboned without the correct rosette,it's hard to tell from the pictures, because flash, shadows etc etc.kind regards,Jacky
Carol I Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 Personally I think it's too golden to be patina, it might be a stripped down 4th class just because it looked so nice, without the rosette...Or it might have been reribboned without the correct rosette,it's hard to tell from the pictures, because flash, shadows etc etc.You could be right, Jacky. Maybe Deruelle will come with some more details about his badge.
Carol I Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 Order of St. Alexander, 5th class (without crown)
Carol I Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 Order for Military Merit, 4th classDoes anyone have a spare a ribbon for this badge?
Carol I Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 Order for Military Merit, 5th classwith war decoration and the ribbon of the Military Order for Bravery
new world Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 I guess yours is a 5th class with crown and swords, not a 4th class. The 4th class was golden and had a rosette on the ribbon. The yellowish colour on your badge might just be patina.Here is a comparison between the 4th class and the 5th class of the Order of Saint AlexanderIt looks like IV class with replaced ribbon to me. It's definitely goldplated.William
David Gregory Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 2nd and 3rd class soldier's crosses of the Bulgarian Military Order "For Bravery".
Igor Ostapenko Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 Can I post photos of Bulgarian Officers with medals (from my collection) ? Major Panica
Igor Ostapenko Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 General Nikifor Nikiforov (on all my pictures - Russian Soldiers st. George crosses !!! for 1877-78 War ! )
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