Gerd Becker Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Hi everyone,i thought, i share this little group with you. Nothing exiting, but in my impression, groups with OOR don?t appear too often on the market, at least since i collect Soviet Orders (which is not long, i admit). Other Soviet Collectors confirmed my impression and others told me, that the OOR?s are often splittet from groups by dealers. I would love to hear other opinions to this.This is the group:Order of the October Revolution Nr. 73.462Order of the Red Star Nr. 3.602.335Order of the Great Patriotic War 85 issueVictory over GermanyValiant Labor in the Patriotic WarVeteran of Laborseveral Commemorative Medals (see picture)The Orders are documented, the Medals are not, but i have an ID, which confirmes all the Medals. Fortunately there is a photo in the group, on which he wears all his Medals. I haven?t seen many photos with OOR in wear, what about you?This is the group:
Gerd Becker Posted October 7, 2005 Author Posted October 7, 2005 Here is the photo of the former owner Ivan Semenovich Muhkin, wearing all his awards above. He wears another commemorative badge. Can someone recognize it?:
Gerd Becker Posted October 7, 2005 Author Posted October 7, 2005 Here is a closeup of the badge. I know, i have seen it before, but i can?t find it.
Gerd Becker Posted October 7, 2005 Author Posted October 7, 2005 Rick, i will post scans of his ID tonight. I must work now. I hope, you guys enjoyed.best,Gerd
Ed_Haynes Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 A nice group indeed. I have never had a clear sense of the sorts of folk who got the OOR, and have always assumed it went mainly to party types. It is fairly commonly seen in wear by "foreign friends", but I agree with you that rarely do we see normal Soviets wearing it.Any chance of deciphering stamps and so on to get a sense of who he was? When you find the time to scan the documents, we can unleash Rick's Eagle-Eye and all will be revealed?
Alfred Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 From the suspension (black and yellow stripes) it looks like a veteran badge.
Paul R Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) That is one nice grouping you have there. I would be interested in knowing how he came about winning the OOR! I have not seen too many photos of people wearing this order. One of my favorite groupings in my collection is one that contains the OOR as well as an Order of Friendship.I find it interesting that he has the OOR yet no other Labor or peace time orders.Best regardsPaul Reck Edited October 7, 2005 by Paul Reck
Gerd Becker Posted October 7, 2005 Author Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) Thanks for the comments everybody. I am indeed very happy with this little group.Ed, i will add the scans as soon as possible. I am curious myself, but i don?t have the time to do it tonight. Andreas, do you have an idea, what it is?Paul, thank you. I don?t know, for what he got the OOR, but it was most probably for Labor. Its indeed interesting, that he has no other Labor-Awards and wonder, like Ed does, what kind of people got an OOR instead of another Labor-Award. This was wounded in WW2 seriously twice and left the army in May 1945, so its not military. But though, even if its not, at least its not alone ;-)Thanks again everyonebest,Gerd Edited October 7, 2005 by Gerd Becker
Chris S Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Very nice group Gerd...I have not seen the Order of the October Revolution in a group before....and it appears to be on a failry normal "Joe".It would be nice to know the story behind this one.Chris
Ed_Haynes Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) So . . . badly wounded in WWII, hence the OPW (2nd class?) commemorative issue?I still think of the OOR as a labor/party award. Am I wrong here?The only other one I have seen is in that group-that-may-not-be-a-group -- http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2456 An interesting story lurks here. Edited October 7, 2005 by Ed_Haynes
Paul R Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Looks like a Pat War 1st 85 to me...ChrisI dont think so. It has a striped ribbon on a rectangular bar. I have honesty never seen one simular to it. I am at a loss as well.Paul
Gerd Becker Posted October 7, 2005 Author Posted October 7, 2005 Hi Everyone,its a OGPW 1st class. Give me a bit time with the scans, i will post them this night or tomorrow morning (its 9pm here). There are lots of scans... Thanks for the interest so far....Gerd
Ed_Haynes Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) Of course it is 1st class. Duh! Posting from memory of the initial scan (always a bad idea on Friday afternoon). Edited October 8, 2005 by Ed_Haynes
Gerd Becker Posted October 8, 2005 Author Posted October 8, 2005 Ok, here you go. I start with his Military ID.First Inside of the cover page and page 1:
Gerd Becker Posted October 8, 2005 Author Posted October 8, 2005 Page 6 is empty. One entry on page 7:
Gerd Becker Posted October 8, 2005 Author Posted October 8, 2005 Page 10 is empty. One entry on Page 11
Gerd Becker Posted October 8, 2005 Author Posted October 8, 2005 Page 13 to 22 are empty. Two stamps on Page 23:
Gerd Becker Posted October 8, 2005 Author Posted October 8, 2005 Page 24/25 are empty. Two more stamps on page 26:
Gerd Becker Posted October 8, 2005 Author Posted October 8, 2005 Page 27 to 32 are empty. One entry on page 33:
Gerd Becker Posted October 8, 2005 Author Posted October 8, 2005 There was an additional document in the ID-book. Here are all entries on the document.
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