Mongolia ORDER OF THE POLAR STAR

[Vatjan]

ORDER OF THE POLAR STAR

T1: old design pattern - Mondvor mintmark

T2V1S1: Uighur inscription - serial number 6 o'clock - upward curved Monetnyi Dvor mintmark (12 o'clock position)

T2V1S2: Uighur inscription - serial number under screwpost - downward curved Monetnyi Dvor mintmark (12 o'clock position)

T3V1: Cyrillic inscription - concave reverse - serial number 7 o'clock

T3V2: Cyrillic inscription - flat (trench) reverse - serial number under screwpost

T3V3: Cyrillic inscription - flat slightly pebbled reverse - serial number 6 o'clock

T4: 1970's pinback

Jan

Edited December 21, 2005 by vatjan

[Vatjan]

T1: old design pattern - Mondvor mintmark

[Vatjan]

T2V1S1: Uighur inscription - serial number 6 o'clock - upward curved Monetnyi Dvor mintmark (12 o'clock position)

[Vatjan]

T2V1S2: Uighur inscription - serial number under screwpost - downward curved Monetnyi Dvor mintmark (12 o'clock position)

Will add pix later

[Vatjan]

T3V1: Cyrillic inscription - concave reverse - serial number 7 o'clock

[Vatjan]

T3V2: Cyrillic inscription - flat (trench) reverse - serial number under screwpost

T3V3: Cyrillic inscription - flat slightly pebbled reverse - serial number 6 o'clock

[Vatjan]

T4: 1970's pinback

[Vatjan]

Gentlemen, the floor is yours now, any comments or additional info are very welcome.

Jan

[Ed_Haynes]

Order of the Polar Star

Type 1 (Screwback; МОНДВОР mintmark; long oval design)

Low = 701 High = 792

Type 2.1 (Screwback; МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN at 6 o'clock near bottom)

Low = 99 High = 2831

Type 2.2 (Screwback; МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN directly below screwpost)

Low = 1617 High = 1861

Type 3.1 (Screwback; Cyrillic; slightly concave reverse; SN at 7 o'clock)

Low = 88 High = 6952

Type 3.2 (Screwback; Cyrillic; flat reverse; SN directly below screwpost)

Low = 5094 High = 9941

Type 3.3 (Screwback; Cyrillic; flat reverse; SN at 6 o'clock)

Low = 10007 High = 15000

Type 4 (Pinback)

Low = 15074 High = 30409

T1

185/1804 1936 Voroshilov, Kliment E., Marshal USSR (later n? a replacement?)

T2

1225 6/09/1944 Jundendoo Ravdangijn

2265 3/11/1945 (T2 booklet)

T3

88 6/07/1946 Zhamba Horloo

2946 8/07/1950 Zhamba Horloo

2506 30/12/1956

3079 16/01/1957 Zhamba Horloo

3917 30/12/1956 Gombogn, Gazhuur, received also Sukhe Bator # 470

6133 16/02/1956 Ajoum Sanzh

9013 14/12/1957

9138 14/07/1960 Jundendoo Ravdangijn

11611 00/03/1966 group 7

13376 1/12/1969

14236 3/07/1971 Mohndat Shadav

14718 12/03/1973 Sanj, Gombojav

T4

15860 3/07/1971 group 17

19735 1/12/1979

25483 3/04/1980 Surengin, Damdin

27017 3/07/1991 Damdin, Zurman

28321 18/04/1995 Nalmid, Daibalbar

31529 21/11/2001 Tumendemberel Namjil

Sources:

Eric and Jan

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3249&st=0

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3249&st=6

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3249&st=13

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3249&st=23

Edited December 26, 2005 by Ed_Haynes

[Stogieman]

Here's my T2V1S1:

(Of which I am most proud!)

(having been produced for exactly 12 months!)

Serial Number 1151

[Guest Rick Research]

T3V1 apparently repaired by having the rivets welding-rod zapped, number 4,470 from 1956:

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[Bob]

ORDER OF THE POLAR STAR

T1: old design pattern - Mondvor mintmark

T2V1S1: Uighur inscription - serial number 6 o'clock - upward curved Monetnyi Dvor mintmark (12 o'clock position)

T2V1S2: Uighur inscription - serial number under screwpost - downward curved Monetnyi Dvor mintmark (12 o'clock position)

T3V1: Cyrillic inscription - concave reverse - serial number 7 o'clock

T3V2: Cyrillic inscription - flat (trench) reverse - serial number under screwpost

T3V3: Cyrillic inscription - flat slightly pebbled reverse - serial number 6 o'clock

T4: 1970's pinback

Jan

First... number 57 of T2V1S1

Next... a new variation... number 1562... Uighur inscription... concave reverse... serial number at 7 'o clock, no mintmark... this one obviously more interesting because I also have the award booklet incl. photograph of recipient!

[Bob]

First... number 57 of T2V1S1

Next... a new variation... number 1562... Uighur inscription... concave reverse... serial number at 7 'o clock, no mintmark... this one obviously more interesting because I also have the award booklet incl. photograph of recipient!

and last pic

[Vatjan]

and last pic

Very strange that this would be a Uighur inscription type, since it was awarded in 1947

Polar stars, aaargh

Jan

[GlennC]

Very strange that this would be a Uighur inscription type, since it was awarded in 1947

Polar stars, aaargh

Jan

You looked in the wrong column. Order was issued in 1937 not in 1947

Glenn

[Vatjan]

You looked in the wrong column. Order was issued in 1937 not in 1947

Glenn

This order was issued in the year 37 of the Mongolian calender, which started at the Mongolian independance after the fall of the Chinese Qing Dynasty in 1911.

1911 is considered as year 1, hence 37 is actually 1947.

So, technically this should/could not be an Uighur inscription OPS.

All the other orders and medals are so straightforward, but these OPS's give me a headache

Jan

[Ed_Haynes]

Just as a link to Yuri Yashnev's site on ОРДЕН ?ПОЛЯРНАЯ ЗВЕЗДА?:

http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongoli...PRPolarStar.htm

[Bob]

For "completeness" purposes. I have 4 different Uighur script OPS's (from left to right - two right hand ones with booklet):

no 57 - mint mark at 12 / number at 6 'o clock and completely visible when screw is on

no 307 - mint mark at 12 / number at 6 'o clock and number half covered by screw

no 1562 - no mint mark / number at 7 'o clock and number completely visible

no 2082 - mint mark at 12 / number at six but very close to screw and fully covered when screw is on

Pics of order booklet for 1562 are show above already (a 1946 booklet). Will post order booklet for 2082 next (36 whopping pages! although I don't see the typical depiction of order number in it - nor does it make sense to have a 1940 order booklet for this high number... so is it even the correct order booklet?)

[Bob]

here we go then....

[Bob]

and now for the booklet...

[Bob]

to the end...

[Bob]

More background - all from the Voronov book

[Guest Rick Research]

Those are basic descriptions of the differences in appearance of the types, but without any specific change-over dates or serial numbers information.

[Gerd Becker]

Nothing special, just a fairly high numbered Polarstar, but its my first Mongolian Order, so i thought, i post it here. They are really nice and its for sure not my last mongolian order.

Thanks for looking

Gerd

[Ed_Haynes]

A nice one, Gerd. And the Imperial Addicts talk about their "slippery slope" . . . !

By the emerging "working vocabulary", this would be a nice Type 3.3.

(A 31/M 12.1) -- Type 1 (Screwback; МОНДВОР mintmark; long oval design with two red banners, ~300 awarded); Low = 701, High = 792; 1936-39

(A 32.1/M 12.2) -- Type 2.1 (Screwback; upward-curved МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN at 6 o'clock near bottom); Low = 57, High = 2831; 1940-41

(A 32.2/M 12.2) -- Type 2.2 (Screwback; downward-curved МОНЕТНЫЙ ДВОР mintmark; Uighur; SN directly below screwpost); Low = 1151, High = 2789; 1941-??

(A 32.2/M 12.3) -- Type 3.1 (Screwback; Cyrillic; slightly concave reverse; SN at 7 o'clock); Low = 2, High = 6952; 19??-??

(A 32.2/M 12.3) -- Type 3.2 (Screwback; Cyrillic; flat reverse; SN directly below screwpost); Low = 5094, High = 9941; 19??-??

(A 32.2/M 12.3) -- Type 3.3 (Screwback; Cyrillic; flat reverse; SN at 6 o'clock); Low = 10007, High = 15000; 19??-70

(A 33.3/M 12.4) -- Type 4.1 (Pinback, silver); Low = 15074, High = 30409; 1970-2003

(A 33.4) -- Type 4.2 (pinback, bronze); Low = 31835, High = 39785; 2003?

(A 33.4) -- Type 4.3 (pinback, bronze, no serial number)

Subject to revision . . . .