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  1. Really bad fake, some sort of old star base with modern parts attached.
  2. "If the Dealer did it it is too bad If a lonely collector" Whoever did it - those stones do not belong there. I think we can agree this was not done by the person receiving the award. This was given for acts of bravery and owner was an officer, this type of modification would result in jokes and mockery from his fellow officers.
  3. It doesn't really matter who did the "enhancement", what matters is that it was not official and does not belong to this award. It certainly does not add to value of it, quite the opposite - it decreases the value. Dealer put this on an auction and attached description to it which implied that this is some sort of improvement. The price is already above the price for what these crosses normally sell for.
  4. For sale by a dealer: Военна ордена на смелостта, Гранд Крос. Instituted in 1880. Grade I with 1915-1917. In silvered bronze with red and white enamels, with four glass stones embedded in each handle of the crossed swords, measuring 48.5 mm (w) x 48.5 mm (h), vertical pinback, intact enamels, scattered silvering wear, near extremely fine. Note that stones were attached to already worn award (see how silver plating is worn out and bronze metal is visible right under the stones). This is a sure sign that stones were applied later, after this medal was worn quite a bit. This was done long after this was awarded, likely it is a modern addition, to increase value of the award.
  5. colors are wrong on the center, it should be white or green enamel, not blue.
  6. it looks like a fantasy badge to me
  7. I am a bit puzzled by this stamp, as CF Zimmermann did not put full name of their firm on German awards, normally it's a number 20 as I recall. On WWII German (DKIG, various badges, etc) awards you can see underside of the pin marked "20" which is the code number for C.F. Zimmermann, Pforzheim. On the other hand, here's similar St Alexander star with diamonds with same stamp, sold by Spink. No photo of the stamp, but description mentions same stamp to the pin: A spectacular diamond-set star of the Bulgarian Military Division of the Order of St. Alexander Bulgaria, Principality, Order of St. Alexander, Military Division, Star, by C. F. Zimmermann, Pforzheim, 84mm, gold, silver-gilt, siver and enamel, enhanced with approximately 848 'diamonds', maker's name to retaining pin, nearly extremely fine and of the finest quality The overall quality of this Star illustrates the supreme experience and detail undertaken by the craftsmen in the workshops of Zimmermann. Each stone upon the rays is individually set into a pierced silver frame; in this material to accentuate the natural colour of the stones. Besides this a sliver-thin pierced gold plate is painstakingly affixed and pierced to align with the pierced silver plate, allowing light to the stones whilst ensuring the reverse of the Star is as attractive as possible at the same time alleviating any tarnish being transferred to the uniform of the recipient in time. Zimmermann markings on German Iron Crosses: C.F. Zimmermann / Pforzheim 20 & 800 http://www.medalnet.net/Iron_Cross.htm
  8. wow, such a beautiful star! I am sure it belonged to someone very important. Congratulations! The stamp on the pin is for German maker Zimmermann.
  9. not exactly fake medal, star actually looks fine, but Godet and other stamps are very suspect.
  10. new world

    Medal ID help!

    Wow, impressive medal bar!
  11. new world

    Medal ID help!

    This is rare medal, congrats!
  12. Seller of these supposedly Rothe stars is based in Austria, which could mean something if these awards were manufactured post-war. One factor in favor of this theory is lack of proper F Rothe stamps, as finished awards were all endorsed with such stamps. One of the main mysteries are enamels. Enamels on these awards seem to be real hard baked type enamel, which are extremely difficult to replicate. It's possible though that someone found supply of already made parts (center of the star) with enamels already applied, but never assembled.
  13. Last one looks like medal for the Election of King Peter I.
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