Guest Darrell Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Just took a spin over at CollectRussia and popped into the Order of Lenin Section Is this what a Type 6 Variation 1 are selling for now? MY GOD !!!http://collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=18918What's one that comes with Award Booklet and Case worth? Appears just the medal offered has jumped by over 300% form what I paid for the other goodies. This is Wahnsinnig ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Yes, that's what these are selling for. I've been watching the Lenins on eBay and in the last four months at least four Lenins were sold there:S/N 1118XX - 3,000 USDS/N 1651XX - 2,800 USDS/N 1968XX - 3,000 USDS/N 4277XX - 3,200 USD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 I suppose it's the old Scrap Bullion Value again...they are certainly not RARE, so it's as simple as the price of a lump of gold....wish that rationalized prices on all the other hundreds-of-thousands-to-millions handed out things that AREN'T gold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 (edited) I suppose it's the old Scrap Bullion Value again...they are certainly not RARE, so it's as simple as the price of a lump of gold....Sorry Rick, I just don?t get it. It appears to me that a Lenin weighs about 1.5 oz. and gold is currently about $830 per ounce on the world market. Therefore, as I see it, the bullion value of a Lenin comes out to around $1250. In post #2 you have four Lenins totaling $12,000 with a bullion value of $5,000.Am I missing something here? I am inclined to see it more as the result of whatever makes Red Banners worth $5,000 without research, etc. I suppose that I fail to appreciate ?oddities and variations? and put too much value on research and provenance because that was the main reason why I once collected Soviet - here?s what it is, who it was awarded to and why.Wild CardP.S. I assume that the Lenins cited in post #2 are also without research. Edited August 24, 2008 by Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Market price: Lenin vs. HSLGentlemen,what's an even more interesting aspect at the present market is, is the fact that there is almost no price difference between a much rarer HSL and a Lenin . The gold content is about the same, I guess.O.K., maybe the Lenin is the most famous - and most well known - order of the Soviet Union, but also the HSL (Stalin & Co.) had been well known .Just compare: There had been around 22.000 HSL issued, but more than 600.000 Lenins .Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimZ Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Same old... same old!!!Be astonished when the prices go down not up! Till then rising prices are the nature of the game - and regrettably no amount of attempted rationalisation will bring the price down Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapa Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Market price: Lenin vs. HSLGentlemen,what's an even more interesting aspect at the present market is, is the fact that there is almost no price difference between a much rarer HSL and a Lenin . The gold content is about the same, I guess.O.K., maybe the Lenin is the most famous - and most well known - order of the Soviet Union, but also the HSL (Stalin & Co.) had been well known .Just compare: There had been around 22.000 HSL issued, but more than 600.000 Lenins .Best regards ChristianChristian,When is the last time that you saw a real HSL available for sale? As far as I know, they go today for significantly more than $3,000.Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Christian,When is the last time that you saw a real HSL available for sale? As far as I know, they go today for significantly more than $3,000.MarcI was gonna say: whoever has a real one for sale for 3K, please PM me! In fact, I'll pay 1K extra if it's with documents :cheeky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapa Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 I was gonna say: whoever has a real one for sale for 3K, please PM me! In fact, I'll pay 1K extra if it's with documents Bob,Who wouldn't? At that price, it would be a steal Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 A documented hero star was just sold at zeige auction for 6.500 Euro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapa Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 A documented hero star was just sold at zeige auction for 6.500 Euro...Bob,Zeige is unreliable when it comes to genuineness. These days, such an amount is way too much or too little Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 A documented hero star was just sold at zeige auction for 6.500 Euro...HSL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 HSL?I was going to ask the same thing. What the heck is HSL? You mean HSU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Hero of Socialist Labor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapa Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 I was going to ask the same thing. What the heck is HSL? You mean HSU?HSU: Hero of the Soviet UnionHSL: Hero of Socialist LaborMarc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 HSL?HSUThere was another one for 10K (but it included several additional awards)Go to zeige's website and click through on auction - you can easily scroll through all the lots (with description/pic) and see both starting price and final price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 A few days ago I sold a Lenin (last version) for 1.900 Euro.best regardsAndreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddywhack Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 are lenins actully going for that? sure wernt 2 lenins sold here for only 900/950??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 When is the last time that you saw a real HSL available for sale? As far as I know, they go today for significantly more than $3,000.Dear Marc,you are right ... Igor had one some month ago.So, what do you expect the market price of an ordinary HSL (without docs) in good condition now in Moscow ?Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 A few days ago I sold a Lenin (last version) for 1.900 Euro.Dear Andreas,that corresponds with the quoted prices in USD ... Best regards Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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