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well...the Hamburg rolls apparently are intact-just not transcribed (here in the USA).That might help. I do not have him listed in the IR 73 officers' verien book-which had about 20% of its membership from HH. Anyone got the IR76 book? Given the lack of LS awards-probably a dR Lt. (he was a freiherr back when that mattered socially) in 1914-18. Any chance a kind HH member could look him up in the obits from 1958?

I think the last medal is not the 1938 Anschluss medal-but the Royalist wedding Commemorative given out post war.

Ummmm...if he were a veteran of 1914-18, wouldn't he have more medals? Is that the overseas/colonial medal he is wearing? Any chance he is a post war veteran of only Lebanon etc.?

Fake? Hmmm...the needlework on the back is very tight and looks newish-but that isn't bad IMHO. This is such an unusual and "obscure" bar I doubt it's a fake. LOTS of prewar Saxon officers had no gongs pre 1914.

law suit medal?

I would guess 14K would be more durable, but given the cruder state of local Arab metallurgy in the 1920s I'd bet it was 20K. originally.

RAF!? Have you researched this? A pilot who got pranged perhaps?

Nice cap-from Ethiopia?

Isn't there a list of these #s issued? At the Great War Forum some members there are regularly able to put names to a badge.

stay tuned-more to come. Sorry-just found this old thread looking for the Wegerer thread. I hope this was of some use?

Well, I have certainly looked for von Wegerer and I think he might be the infamous Alfred von Wegerer. The Older General (a Landwehr Divison Commander and double recipient of the EK2: 1914-1870) had two sons according to the 1908 Wer Ists and Alfred, after the war, ended up being a secret military historian, writing a series of books about how the First World War was not Germanys' fault. He portrayed himself a an independent scholar, but in fact was paid via the General Staff . He was lionized by the Nazis. Subsequently Alfereds' book was the catalyst for Fritz Fischers' famous book. Does anyone have the IR 31 regimental history?

Grundmann, Lt. Bernhard. 12. 12.12.14 KIA, Slowicki Nowe-Iwangorod (pp. 523 GRzF. regt. History. #7). pp. 55: "Waehrend die 9. die rechte Flanke decken soll, geht die 12. (Kompanie) zur Aufname zueruckgehender G.R. Schuetzen und R. 64er am Suedrand des grossen Sumpfes bei Slowiki-Nowe in Stellung. Lt. Grundmann wird mit seinem Zuge der 12. vom Kommandeuer der G.R. Scheutzen zur Erfundund des ausgedehnten Suempfgelaendes vorgeschicht. Der in dem unuebersichtlichen Gelaende von ueberlegenem Feind angegriffene Zug wird fast voellig ausgerieben. Lt. Grundmann, ein besonderes tuechtiger, Juenger Offizier, faellt. usw.

VERY nice badge!

Isn't it a FestTag badge from 1924?

Very cool. Alas, I have NONE of these unit's books-but maybe Chris B. does? It appears to me as if your uncle, a war volunteer, was quite capable- rising from lowly Pvt. to Vitzfeldwebel and thence to LtdR within only a few years. Also, it seems he was in IR 155 and thence to IR 146. I can't read it because the print is so small-but what was your Uncle doing between August 1919 and April 1926?

There is no site-yet. We are it. there are a couple of books, both of which had mistakes in them and a quick snout round the images on the internet here and there shows that many senior NCOS and Imperial Guards had the multiple bars. The Ethiopian dates are easier to figure out than the "words". Did both medals belong to one person Chris?

I have seen these referred to as "Long service/good conduct" badges as well. But I do not know for certain. The regs appear in the Negarata G., but I did not have time last time I was in DC to read beyond 1947 (the institution of the medals for WW2 etc.). They were certainly patterned after the CIB and one must remember that General Westmorland had a powerful influence on the post WW2 Ethiopian army's development. He helped redesign the army uniforms in the early 1950s.

Oh My God! 5 palms!!!! That is rare.

Very,very cool. I am green, green with envy. Most of the awards of the star-a major civil service and military merit order-were listed in the Negerata Gazzette'. There's only one full run copy in the USA-at the Library of Congress.

Hauptman Winkler has one spiffy bar there- off to the library i go. I LOVE the Stuttgart photo-looks a lot like a Union soldier from a few years before.

well- yeah-but frankly it is such a HUGE subject area most of us shyed away from this post. One of the things the US armed forces do really well is unit patches. The subject area from 1941-present is ENORMOUS! The Iraq war alone has created @ 1000 different new patches/variations -or so I read recently. Here is a few near and dear to my heart though-

Oh he was definetly some sort of combat officer in WW1-they didn't hand out the HHOx for speedy telegram deliveries. But the higher up you were-and the closer to the command center-the more likely you were (and still are) to get a medal or two. I can only fathom a Staff officer without a 4 year LS medal as a Obrstlt. dR and therefore not eligable-but what sort of chap ended up on the staff as a dR?....in 1942????/

Cool! I have never seen such a picture before. I like the "Funny Pages" tacked to the wall.

Catholic-almost certainly a Bavarian. Do you mean the Order?

OK-ranks I am not a specialist in in...but are his epalettes a bit narrow? Could he be a a technical officer of some type on the OKW staff?