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Dear forumites, I'd like to introduce to you my newest purchase and stimulate a topic on such very rarely seen Long Service awards of the "freie Stadt Danzig". Here is the medal bar: ? Preussen, Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse 1914 (OEK 1909) ? Hamburg, Hanseatenkreuz, 1915-1918 (OEK 688) ? Hessen, Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen ?F?r Tapferkeit? (OEK 884) ? Deutsches Reich 1933-45, Ehrenkreuz f?r Frontk?mpfer mit Schwertern (OEK 3803/1), Hersteller Sch. & H. (Does anyone know what this maker mark stands for?) ? Freie Stadt Danzig, Treudienst-Ehrenzeichen f?r 40 Jahre, 1. Stufe, 1938-1939 (OEK 3446) Nimmergut doesn't give any details about the number of the awardees of the Treudienst-Ehrenzeichen, but I can only speculate that they were very few hundreds, since the time gap such medals were awarded, like the Polizei-DA of Danzig, lasted a mere 1-2 years (from 1938 until 1939). Ciao, Claudio
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Hi Paul, This is Nimmergut's link about the Handb?cher: http://www.joerg-nimmergut.de/html/handbuch.html and this is the contact address: Zentralstelle f?r wissenschaftliche Ordenskunde - ZwO J?rg Nimmergut ? Eversbuschstra?e 108 ? D-80999 M?nchen Telefon ++ 49 (0) 89 8 12 29 63 ? Fax ++ 49 (0) 89 8 13 15 41 Email: joerg.nimmergut@t-online.de Ciao, Claudio
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I would like to show as comparison my bar with an official Tapferkeitsmedaille. Although the ribbons the look brand new, they are original (I tested them with UV-light). What I don't like to much on your bar is the stitching on the back. Bavarian bars are easier to fake, since their construction is simplier than other German states' bars. Furthermore many Bavarian and non-Bavarian enlisted and NCO did put together their own bars at home to save money, instead of going to a Medal or Military Uniform dealer. Ciao, Claudio
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Hi Paul! That is a really great bar... I saw it too on Ebay (Deutschland) and kept under close observation until when the seller pulled it out 2 or 3 days before the ending of the auction. I was pretty disturbed when I noticed it, since I also ask additional info and scans of this very bar. Anyway my compliments for your newly adquired bar. I find that lately the competition is very intense on Ebay to get the few really good pieces. Ciao, Claudio
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Thank you very much, dear Rick! Great information! Very interesting to know how much these bars & groups were worth back in the early 80ies. It is interesting to notice that at that time the bidding and rivalry between collectors was not so extreme like today: the bar went up from a starting price of DM 3'300.- to a final price of DM 3'600.-, and the miniature chain from DM 300.- to DM 550.- (proportionally much more than the bar). Notice also the auction's commission fee: ONLY 7%!!!! Why can today's auctioneers set the commission so high (20%)? Is it just dictated by the demand of the clients? The more clients are partecipating to auctions the more is the commission charged by the auctioneer? No wonder prices are sky rocketing. Ciao, Claudio
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Dear Rick and Daniel, I can't wait to see your efforts put on a book. Your dedication and enthusiasm should be an example for every serious collectors and student of military history. On a polemic note, I could say that, after this book will be published, you will see prices of the rarest and to most unknown medals to increase drastically. Also past specialized publications had the same effect on the market. Just my 2 cents. Ciao, Claudio
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Wow!!! Great bar Andreas!!! Congratulations!! It seems that you're also becoming a "medal bar" freak like me and Heiko... These bars, although very very expensives, are so much fun to collect or just to view them... You can see some odd combinations with very rare medals that usually mere mortals wouldn't have a chance to wear. Ciao, Claudio
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Very nice indeed! Very likely the RAO am Bande der Rettungsmedaille was given at the same time with the Rettungsmedaille. I've already seen a Navy officer who got 3 medals for the same Rescue action. A similar bar was somewhere on a specialized German Militaria magazine. It would be nice to see the backing too... Ciao, Claudio
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Hi Paul, I attended personally... this time prices went up like crazy; some tough competition, maybe also from very wealthy new Russian rich collectors. From what I remember (I didn't ruin my catalogue writing down all the prices... after all in a couple of days you can view the result on Thies webpage) here are more or less the prices: Item no. 36: went for much more than Eur 2'000.- (I believe Eur 2'400.-) Item no. 38: went for Eur 2'600.- (I'm 100% sure since I followed this bar very closely) Item no. 381: can't honestly remember... Ciao, Claudio