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Hello Sascha, there you are right of course, I have already pointed out above. ? Schön, dass Du wieder öfters “online” bist. Viele Grüße Walter

Hello, I am glad that your questions have been answered. So far I have only seen copies that were offered as originals and are therefore very expensive. Should I find a cheap copy, I will write to you. greetings from Bavaria Walter

Very interesting topic. I once wrote a post about the Georgs medal in the SDA, but in German. Here is the link: http://h2385226.stratoserver.net/wbb4/index.php?thread/61927-bayern-st-georgs-medaille-des-haus-ritterordens-vom-heiligen-georg/ There are many fakes of this medal. To distinguish between an original and a forgery you should compare exactly with the pictures in my article. There are only originals shown. Only the golden medals were awarded, the silver medals could be purchased and worn for donning the field uniform. Of these, however, only 11 pieces have been embossed. A gold medal was made from 15 ducats of gold and was therefore very heavy. They were minted in the Royal Bavarian Mint in Munich. The band rings were made by Eduard Quellhorst in Munich and most were marked with the manufacturer's stamp EQ. The Bavarian wearing regulations stipulate that the Georg Medal should always be given first place by civilians or military personnel. Here is a Google translation of the statutes Law and Ordinance for the Kingdom of Bavaria, No. 50, December 24, 1889, pages 665 - 666: Supreme ordinance, the foundation of a medal commemorating the celebrated on 8 December 1889 main festival of the house = Equestrian Order of St. George concerning. In the name of His Majesty King Luitpold, by the grace of God royal Prince of Bavaria, Regent We have decided, in commemoration of the main feast of the house of St. George, on the 8th of December, 1889, on which day fifty years have passed, since We entered the Order by Our Father, King Louis I, who is resting in God was taken to donate a medal and to prescribe over it what follows: §. 1. This decoration, which is "St. George's Medal "can only be members of the House = Order of St. George. We give it first to all the members of the order who were present at the religious festival on December 8, 1889. §. 2. The indefinite in a golden medal, their front of our bust image surrounded in the large master of the bayer of the luitpold, who portrayed St. George on horseback in battle with the lynx. The inscription on the reverse side reads: To commemorate the 8th of December, 1889 §. 3. The St. George's medal is worn on a sky blue silk ribbon with white and other border on the left breast. §. 4. The decrees of the St. George Medal shall be issued by us personally executed decrees. §. 5. The St. George's Medal remains after the demise of the holder the survivors circumstances. Given to Munich, 15 December 1889. Luitpold Prince of Bavaria of the Kingdom of Bavaria Verweser Quietude. Crailsheim. At the Most High Command: The General = Secretary: Frhr. v. Volderndorff

I see it like Sascha

Stimmt. ?

Thank you very much

I'll call him. He always has a lot to do and is often unable to reply to emails. Either call and talk to the mailbox or mail. The mail addresses are still all right. many Greetings Walter

Verordnungsblätter des königlich bayerischen Kriegsministeriums Best regards Walter

Servus Chris, habe den Beitrag gerade gesehen. Hibsch stammt aus der Verwandschaft und aus dem Geburtsort meines Vaters. Die Urkunden von ihm wurden vor ein paar Jahren bei der Landshuter Rüstkammer versteigert. Schön, dass diese Sachen bei Dir gelandet sind. Viele Grüße Walter

Hello Chris, a very nice group. Nice that you got it. Congratulation. greetings from Bavaria

Hello, here a medal bar of a veteran of the wars 1849, 1866 and 1870/71. I hope you like it. Best regards Walter

Servus Alex, gefällt mir gut. Habe ich so noch nicht gesehen. Viele Grüße Walter

Bavaria is only slightly represented here. Therefore first a Bavarian medal for bravery (Typ 1a), so awarded for acts from 1806 - 1815 and lending for 1805.

Here is a miniature chain of a brave Bavarian soldier, who stood in the field for Bavaria in 1849, 1866 and 1870/71.

Hello Chris, the MVKs and MVOs were invariably handed out in cases. Reason for that was the return obligation. Thus, the MVOs and MVks were always stored safely and were rarely returned damaged. The blue bag would have to come from an EK or from an honor cross for front fighters The only option I see in a private purchase. Since the original would have been returned in the case after death and the privately procured piece could have been in a bag. Best regards Walter .

Hello Wild Card, really an impressive goldsmith work. Here again a nice miniature chain from Weiss in the original box, as used by Weiss. many Greetings Walter

Since I have something else to the topic RK 1st Class of the Michael Order so bestowed until 1887

A nice miniature. Thank you for showing me.

Hello, I can not imagine that this MVO was delivered to Weiss so. It may be that he was later repaired and assembled incorrectly.

I'll try it again. For gilded medallions or MVOs, the edge of the lower cross arm is widened on the back. As a result, it was immediately obvious that the 4th class of the MVO is not a real gold medallion or the 3rd class gold plated MVOs. In this example, the widening of the lower cross arm on the front can be seen. This should be correct on the back. As an example, I want to show the back of a MVO 4th class with silvered medallions from 1917 onwards. Here you can clearly see the broadening of the lower cross arm. Depending on the manufacturer, this is sometimes less pronounced. Left of the MVO with silver-gilt medallions from 1917 until the end of the war, on the right the MVO with three-part real gold medallions until the end of 1916. .

It is probably a silver-gilt piece. However, the cross body is mounted the wrong way round. The lower widened edge of the cross arm must be on the back. Viele Grüße

Hello, this MVK 2. Kl. X was an original piece, in which the swords were missing and a damage in the enamel is recognizable. These 2nd classes with swords can often get between 80 and 120 euros. Without swords and with damage, I find 80 euros for this peace not cheap. I hope that brings you a little further. Best regards Walter

Here is an overview of the variants of the Royal Bavarian Military Merit Medal. Have fun and best regards Walter

type 1a in silver: a type 1c in silver: a type 2a in silver: a typ 1d in silver:

Hello everybody, I have just seen the topic. Since I want to make a few additions. Here is a Ries, type 2b in gold Best regards and another type 1d in gold: