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Volume 4 of Georg Tessin's series "Verb?nde und Truppen der deutschen Wehrmacht und Waffen SS 1939-1945" shows that this unit was raised on 08.05.1842 in Wehrkreis XIII (N?rnberg). It was an army level level, that in 1944, found itself in Serbia assigned to Feldeisenb. Kdo I. October 1944 moved to Belgrade and 1945 to Slavonsky Brod under Feldeisenb. Kdo 7. Not much, but perhaps a start. Andy

Volume three is the one with many names that you will find of interest now that you are on the hunt for the E-Offiziere. Don''t forget the addenda in volumes one and two (another reason why I prefer real books instead of scans- you can write in them!) Andy

As Rick and others have pointed out countless times on this forum and others, one can never have too many sources. One of my first "modern" pick ups when I began this trek many years ago, was the four volume set (book by book as they slowly made their way on to the market) " Stellenbesetzung der deutschen Heere 1815-1939", published by Biblio Verlag in the early 1990's. These are a wealth of information, to include first names and dates of birth and death. It is a great source and one that should not be overlooked by those serious about this hobby. Andy

Hans Gebauer (10.05.1898-13.12.1973) Commander of Pz. Abtl. Abtl. 28 from 06.10.1936- at least the beginning of the war. The 1919 Seniority list gives two Lts., one in Fu?art. R. 17 and the other in IR 46. There is also Zeug Lt. at the artilllery depot in Brandenburg. Based on this man's date of birth and the date of rank inthe seniority list I would say the Lt. in Fu?art. R. 17 is a better bet. This Lt. is also to be found in the 1923-28 Army lists in the 1. Sanit?ts Abtl. His 1924 awards are the EK2 and the wound badge in black. Andy

Ingo, Yes, he was a field artillery officer. Andy

I'll take my second stab at this one (first one on this forum) How about Friedrich (Fritz) Heydenreich??? 1914 FAR 12, b. St. Major 01-10-13 peace time decorations AR1 War time awards swords to AR 1 22.12.1914 SH3 16.05.1915 VR1mSchw 03.09.1916 PHOvH3mSchw 31.10.1918 Date of rank as LT 24.08.1891- so eligible for DAK roughly 1915. I've gone through my 1914 Saxon database, added Roth's wartime saxon awards and his PHOvH3mSchw and this is the only guy who comes up. So, let's dissect this one and see if it fits. Andy

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Bob, Always glad to help. Bradley is the author (one of many, but listed first) of Biblio Verlags multi-volume (never to be completed???) set detailing the careers of German Generals 1921-1945. That set is part of a broader effort "Deutschlands Generale und Admirale." Andy

Bob, I think it's a safe assumption that the Hildemanns were father and son. Bradley (Volume 5, p. 430) gives Fritz's date and place of birth as 18.05.1889 in Friedrichsort b. Kiel. My reseach on Julius' career has him in Friedrichsort from 15.07.87-22.10.89 "zur Fortifikation Dienst i. Friedrichsort v. 1. Ing. Insp." That they were both pionier officers further supports that assumptiion. Also, Roth's "Verdienstorden and Albrechtsorden 1914-1918 (p. 202) (Band XI Statistische Ausarbeitungen zur Phaleristik Deutschlands) gives Eugen as Zipper's first name. Andy

Here's one: Gerhard Tappen (1866-1953) 15.09.17-12.01.19 Kom. d. 15. Div. 08.12.16-15.09.17 Kom. d. 5. Ersatz Div. 04.09.16-07.12.16 Chef d. Gen. St. d. Besatz. i. Rum?nien 11.03.15-28.03.15 Chef d. Gen. St. d. 7. Armee(in Vertret.) 02.08.14-11.03.15 ????? 01.10.12-02.08.14 Chef d. 2. Abt. i. gr. Gen. St. Gen.Maj. 26-06-15 A Oberst ??-??-?? Oberstlt. 01-10-12 Z2z Major 27-01-06 V3v Hptm. 25-03-99 O Oblt. 14-09-93 Leutn. 18-09-86 Andy

Curd von Plato's career details: 21.06.92-25.06.93 Commander 48. Inf. Brig. 01.02.89-21.06.92 Commander Inf. R. 139 18.08.85-01.02.89 LTC on staff of Inf. R. 134 1881-18.08.85 Commander II. Batl./Inf. R. 105 20.04.78-1880 Major attached to staff of Inf. R. 104 14.07.68-20.04.78 Company commander 9./Gren. R. 101 1867-14.07.68 in 9./Gren. R. 101 1866 in hanovarian Guard (infantry) Regiment 1858-1865 ?? Gen.Maj. 17-11-91 (must have been back dated, as he was not a GM while commanding IR 139 in 1892 as shown in that year's Army List) Oberst 01-02-89 Oberstlt. 18-08-85 Major 20-04-78 Hptm 14-07-68 Prem.Lt. 08-06-65 Sek.Lt. 00-00-58 In Nov 1866 he married Carlotta Sthamer (not a typing/spelling error, as given in the 1913 Gotha Uradel. Handbuch, p. 504), born 1846 in Havana. They had three children, two girls and a boy. Interestingly, the two daughters were raised Catholic like their mother but not Fritz, their son. Both girls married, the eldest did not have children but the younger did, and her daughter was raised Catholic, but not her son. Not being Catholic myelf, it strikes me that just the girls were raised in the church, not the sons. Andy

Jens, Heinemann's career. I hace nothing that shows he was Kom. d. XVI. AK or any other AK. Where did you find informaiton that he was a corps commander? Andy Walter von Heinemann (1856-1928) 06.01.14-25.04.16 Kom. d. 34. Div. (Metz) 21.04.11-06.01.14 Kom. d. 76. Inf. Brig. (Erfurt) 22.03.10-21.04.11 Kom. d. Inf. R. 96 (Gera) 10.04.06-22.03.10 Gen. St. d. Gouv. v. Thorn 22.04.05-10.04.06 Chef d. 7. Abtl. i. gr. Gen. St. 22.03.02-22.04.05 III./Inf. R. 59 (Deutsch-Eylau) 18.10.00-22.03.02 Gen. St. d. 37. Div. (Allenstein) 17.04.97-18.10.00 i. Gen. St. d. Kmdtr. v. Posen 14.02.95-17.04.97 Chef 2./F?s. R. 38 (Glatz) 17.10.93-14.02.95 ? l.s. d. Gen. St. i. Neb. Et. 26.11.92-17.10.93 i. gr. Gen. St., b. Trigon. Abt. 29.03.92-26.11.92 aggr. d. gr. Gen. St., i. Trigon. Abt. 20.11.90-29.03.92 k.b. gr. Gen. St., i. Landesvermess. Abt. v. Inf. R. 85 (bis 18.10.91 v. Inf. R. 74) 18.10.91 in Inf. R. 85 versetzt 01.10.87-19.07.90 k.z. Kr. Akad. v. Inf. R. 74 1884-01.10.87 in 3./Inf. R. 74 (Hannover) 1882-1883 in 2./Inf. R. 74 (Hannover) 1879-1881 in 7./Inf. R. 74 (Hannover) 14.02.78 Sek.Lt. 15.05.77 Port. F?hnr. i. Inf. R. 74 01.10.76 als Offiz. Asp. i. Inf. R. 74 eingetr. PRAO2mE PKrO2mSt PDK BrH2b REKj1 HSH2a SEK1 Gen.Lt. 27-01-14 D Gen.Maj. 21-04-11 - Oberst 14-04-07 B2b Oberstlt. 27-01-05 - Major 01-04-98 U Hptm. 29-03-92 Oblt. 15-11-87 Leutn. 14-02-78

Komtur, Here is Dr. Plagge's pre-war career. I am not able to find anything about his war time Service. Dr. Karl Plagge 1914/1918 nicht in der Ehrenrangliste zu finden! (Der Dr. Plagge auf Seite 1041 war Dr. Wenzeslaus Plagge, nicht Karl) perhaps related?? 19.11.12 unter Verleihung des Charakters als Generaloberarzt und mit der Erlaubnis zum Tragen der Uniform der Sanit?tsoffiziere der Schutztruppen der Abschied mit der gesetzlichen Pension bewilligt. 1908-19.11.12 Regiments Arzt d. Inf. R. 116 (Gie?en) 1905-1907 Chefarzt d. Etappenkommandos d. Schutztr. f. SWA 18.04.03-1904 Regiments Arzt d. Feldart. R. 57 (Neustadt i. Ob. Schles.) 1902-18.04.03 zuerst ? la suite d. Sanit?tskorps, dann Batl. Arzt b. II./Inf. R. 79 (Hildesheim) 00.07.1900-1901 Batl. Arzt b. II./4. Ostas. Inf. R. 1894-00.07.1900 Batl. Arzt b. III./Inf. R. 82 (Einbeck) 22.03.89-1893 Arzt. b. I./Feldart. R. 25 (Darmstadt) Char. als Generaloberarzt: 19.11.12 Oberstabsarzt: 18.04.03 A Stabsarzt: 21.09.93 M2m Assistenz-Arzt 1. Kl.: 29.06.91 Assistenz-Arzt 2. Kl.: 22.03.89 Dates of promotion courtesy of Glenn J., as well as date of retirement. All other information from the various Ranglisten. Andy

Heinrich Ritter und Edler von Kienle, born 19.08.1875, was commissioned a Sek.Lt. with a date of rank (DOR) of 27.02.1896 in the 9. IR (found in the 1897 Dienstaltersliste). That?s the same DOR as Richard Henn. I know from my records that Richard Henn was a Kriegsschule graduate, so, it?s a safe assumption that Heinrich graduated at the same time Richard did, as you point out. Heinrich can still be found in the 1898 Dienstaltersliste, but by 1900 has disappeared and is only mentioned as Leutn. a.D. Why did he not transfer to the reserves or Landwehr? He still would have had a military commitment. Perhaps he ran afoul of the Ehrengericht???? Was he injured and mustered out as an ?Invalid?? Without consecutive Ranglisten or other sources, it?s impossible to tell. At least now that date can be narrowed to sometime between May 1898 and May 1900. Now for Richard Henn. He was born on 07.02.1875. Upon commissioning, he joined the 5. FAR in Landau and remained with that regiment until 01.10.1901 when a new FAR, the 12th, was formed at Landau. From 1901-01.10.03 he was an Abteilung adjutant. On 01.10.1903 he entered the War Academy in Munich. Sadly, Richard died on 06.02.1906, explaining his disappearance. So, for me the only remaining question is what happened to Heinrich to cause him to leave the army under conditions that prevented further service in either the reserves or Landwehr. Andy

Paul is correct. There were two active duty officers in 1914 named Kurt Frhr, von Wangenheim. The gentleman descirbed in the Kube auction entry was born 27.11.1872, ten years after "Paul's" Kurt. In 1914 he was in the 3. Garde R.z.F. and like his eponimous fellow officer, had served in the colonial wars. His 1914 awards included (as found in the 1914 Rangliste) PRAO4 PKrO4mSchw PDK BrH3bmSchw MMV2. Andy

Georg Erdmann Karl Friedrich Graf von Haugwitz, *22.06.1848 +12.09.1897 was the father of Curt *28.09.1895 (Gotha Gr?fl. Taschenbuch 1915-394). Georg entered K?r. R 1 in 1865 and served with that regiment until 1877 when he transferred to KR 6. In 1885 he went to KR 5 and then KR 7 in 1891. Major 22.03.1889 His last assignment was as the commander of Ulan. R. 2 from 1894-1895. The pictures above are of a company grade officer and most likely show him in the uniform of either KR 1 or 6. I won't hazard a guess given my inability to distuinguish facing colors in a black and white photo. Still, the family connection is clear, though not the regimental (GKR) affiliation, at least not based on what I have found in the Stammlisten entries for Georg. (KR 1 Stammliste entry #100) Andy

Jens, A bit more information on his career: Ludwig von Estorff (1859-1943) 01.10.19-08.04.20 mit d. F?hr. d. Reichswehr Gruppen Kdo 3 beauftr., zugl. mit d. F?hr. d. Wehrkreis Kdo I beauftr. 25.02.19-01.10.19 mit d. F?hr. d. I. AK beauftr. 05.02.19-25.02.19 Gouv. v. K?nigsberg 20.01.19-05.02.19 Offizier v.d. Armee 17.12.18-20.01.19 stellv. Oberbefehlshaber d. 8. Armee 16.03.18-17.12.18 F?hr. d. Gen. Kdo z.b.V. 60 07.11.16-16.03.18 Kom. d. 42. Div. 11.09.16-07.11.16 Offizier v.d. Armee 11.05.15-11.09.16 Kom. d. 103. Inf. Div. 11.09.14-11.05.15 Offizier v.d. Armee 01.09.14 schwer verwundet- Lazarett 01.10.12-01.09.14 Kom. d. 68. Inf. Brig. (Metz) 20.03.11-01.10.12 Kom. d. Inf. R. 92 (Braunschweig) 22.03.07-20.03.11 Kom. d. Schutztr. f. SWA (Windhut) 04.01.06-22.03.07 Kom. d. 2. Feldregt. d. Schutztr. f. SWA 25.06.04-04.01.06 Batl. Kom. i. 1. Feldregt. d. Schutztr. f. SWA (z. Verf?g. d. Kom. d. Schutztr.) 19.02.04-25.06.04 i. Schutztr. f. SWA 18.07.03-19.02.04 I./F?s. R. 35 06.02.02-18.07.03 b.m.d. Stellvert. d. Kom. d. Schutztr. f. SWA 12.03.01-06.02.02 Major i. Schutztr. f. SWA 09.06.00-12.03.01 Major i. Schutztr. f. DOA 18.04.00-09.06.00 k.z. Oberkomdo d. Schutztr., ? l.s. Gen. St. 13.09.99-18.04.00 i. gr. Gen. St. 04.06.94-09.07.99 Komp. Chef i. Schutztr. f. SWA 11.06.94-04.06.94 i. Schutztr. f. SWA 14.09.93-11.06.94 Chef 9./Inf. R. 31 (Altona) 29.03.92-14.09.93 k.z. Gen. St. v. Inf. R. 31 01.10.88-20.07.91 k.z. Kr. Akad. v. Inf. R. 31 1888-01.10.88 in 9./Inf. R. 31 (Altona) 1887 in 7./Inf. R. 31 (Altona) 01.10.83-30.09.86 in 2./Unteroff. Sch. i. Marienwerder v. Inf. R. 31 1879-1882 in 8./Inf. R. 31 (Altona) 15.04.78 Sek.Lt. i. Inf. R. 31 (Altona) Gen.Maj. 01-10-12 U Oberst 20-04-09 V Oberstlt. 10-04-06 F3f Major 27-01-00 L2l Hptm. 14-09-93 Oblt. 13-12-87 Leutn. 15-04-78 Andy

Jens, geb. am 17. April 1871 zu Schlo? Hammerstein im Kreise Schlochau, Reg.-Bez. Marienwerder, evangelisch. Vater: Wihelm, General Leutnant z.D., zuletzt Kommandant von Posen, gest. am 22.0.1.1905 zu Berlin. Mutter: Clara geb.von Livonius. Verheiratet: 1. am 25.03.1899 zu Berlin mit Eleonor geb. Clau?en, gest. am 21.02.1905 zu Kassel. 2. am 09.04.1906 zu Berlin mit Auguste geb. Schmidt-B?rkly. Erziehug im elterlichen Hause, auf der h?heren Knabenschule des Dr. D?bbelin zu Berlin, den Kadettenanstalten zu Potsdam und Gro?-Lichterfelde; Abiturient 08.02.1890 dem Garde F?s. R. als Port. F?hn. ?berw.- 25.12.1890 durch A.C.O. v. 25.12.1890 f?r vorz?gl. bestandenes Off.-Examen belobt.- 18.01.1891 Sek.Lt. m. Patent v. 08.02.1890 (A). 01.10.1896 zur Kr. Akad. .- 01.04.1898 Prem.Lt. (A) .- 01.10.1900 bis 22.03.1902 z. Dienstl. b. gr. Gen. St. kommdt.- 22.03.1902 unter Belassung beim gr. Gen. St. u. unter Bef?rderung zum ?berz?hligen Hptm. (A3a) als aggr. zu, Gen. St. d. Armee versetzt.- 17.02.1903 unter Belassung b. gr. Gen. St. in eine Hptm.-Stelle d. Gen. St. d. Armee eingereiht.- 14.11.1903 mit dem 20.11.1903 in den Gen. St. d. XI. AK versetzt 15.09.1905 als Komp.-Chef in das Inf. R. 71 versetzt 11.09.1907 als aggr. zum Gen. St. d. Armee versetzt.- 18.10.1907 als Milit?r Attach? zur Botschaft in Washington und zur Gesandschaft in Mexiko kommdt.- 01.04.1908 in den Gen. St. d. Armee eingereiht 10.09.1908 Major (Y3Y) Stammliste der akitven Offiziere des Inf. R> 71 1860-1910, Voigt, Erfurt, F. Frohberger Nachfolger 1910 27.07.1910-01.10.1912 i. gr. Gen. St. 01.10.1910-22.04.1912 Gen. St. d. 14. Div. 22.04.1912-1914 Kommandeur d. II./KIR 145 26.12.1914-04.08.1915 Kom. d. Inf. R. 26 28.03.1916-20.02.1917 Kom. d. Inf. R. 159 18.04.1917 (T) Oberst 00.00.1919-29.03.1920 Kom. d. KIR 145 Andy

Rick, I've sent you a PM with the birth dates of all those mssing year of birth except Alexander- he is no where to be found in my records. Andy

A very nice document indeed. You might be interested to know that the Major who signed the document was Rudolf von Reinicke. He commanded J?g. B. 7 from 30.10.1866 until Aug 1870, then F?s. R. 40 until 1875 and then 25. Inf. Brig. until 1876. So, an added bit of history to go along with your document. Andy

Glenn, As always, many thanks for your assistance and I look forward to seeing that PDF during your visit. Andy

That's the funny thing about officers like this. Someone thinks they have enough information on his date of promotion to GM to list him in Biblio's series, but without providing it, no way to verify. That he is not in Keilig is not too surprising, but not shown as such in the Seniority list is a greater mystery. At least Alex now has his date and place of birth and death! I just wish authors were more willing/able to provide their sources. Books on these subjects need to be chock full of footnotes (as the SS and Polizei General series is!) Andy

If I am not mistaken, Werner Kirsten was promoted to Generalmajor on 01-09-1943. He is listed in Volume 6 of the Biblio Generals series. All that is given is his date, place of birht and death (28.08.1892 Premessen, 10.10.1951 Perwo-Uralsk/UdSSR), date of entry on active duty(26.08.1911), retirement (30.11.1932) and reactivation (01.06.1934). The only assignment listed is as commander of Inf. R. 7, but he is not listed among the pre-war commanders in Volume 2 of Wegner's Stellenbesetzung (also by Biblio). No photo either. A rather obsure individual to say the least. Andy

Glenn, Reading your post on v. Lowtzow makes it crystal clear that your work with the MWB has enabled you to pull together careers and the like in ways absolutely impossible previously. Such resources simple do not exist without the dedication of individuals like you. My hat's off to you for the countless hours at the copier, keyboard and the years of work and study which allow you to understand the nuances of this arcane hobby and solve many of its mysteries. Great job! Andy

Wilhelm von Oertzen, geb. 22.06.1861 Rittm. d. Res., seit Sep 1914 F?hr. d. III./Landst. Inf. R. 17. Adolf von Oerzten, geb. 11.07.1889 Oberlt. im IR 24 Carl von Oerzten, geb. 05.11.1889, Landwirt, Lt. d. Res. d. FAR 53.