Thanks guys! So I wanted to know, how often do you see Aluminum pilot badges (not PO, just pilot)...1 in 10, 1 in 100, or.....? and then what is the most 'commonly' seen maker in your experience? Sadly no second patterns in the flock yet Eric. I think they are almost more rare. In the past, when one of those came up for sale, I had other "irons in the fire". As JTW mentioned, only a few makers.....here there are 3 Assmann, 2 Juncker, and the IMME on the end. Still need to work on my photography to shoot as well as JTW!